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tai020381
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Posted: 2013-09-22 16:51
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On 2013-09-22 11:05:38, Geoffxx wrote:

On 2013-09-22 07:42:08, moogoo wrote:


@GEOFFXX - if you're reading this, i ordered a 64GB SDXC card, which will arrive tuesday. So, i'll be able to tell you my experience. but you really should make sure the 64gb card works in something else..
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-22 06:58 ]



it's all rather confusing, this Kingston card worked perfectly in my XZU, I believe it was formatted exfat straight out of the packaging, it was completely unrecognised in the Z1 or my laptop, tried it in a SG4 last night still not working - but I also tried his 64gb card in my Z1 and it didn't work, I had more or less assumed that the XZU and the Z1 were very similar in both Hardware and Software so I just assumed the card would work perfectly in the Z1

So what next, it is well known that SD cards are fragile and easily corrupted/bricked, I'm not sure that the Z1 supports exfat but it definitely should support fat32, I believe that most 64gb sd cards come formatted exfat so if I decide to buy another card I will be formatting it fat32 - there is no real disadvantage to doing this except the 4gb file size limit and I can't think of any situation were I need a file size anywhere near 4gb, fat32 seems to be more stable and less prone to errors. I will also see if I can get the shop to fit it for me and play dumb - that way if it fails I can just walk away

Meanwhile the 16gb card is working flawlessly


PS, meanwhile I contacted Kingston support to see if they while replace under their lifetime warranty - I'm not holding my breath
[ This Message was edited by: Geoffxx on 2013-09-22 10:12 ]


Did you try using the phone itself to format the card? It works for my Z.
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Posted: 2013-09-22 16:54
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@northmonkey



That's a way to get BETTER pics than what the default camera app can manage, and it applies to ALL smartphones. That app will take better pics than default camera app of any Sony, Samsung, LG or HTC smartphone.
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Posted: 2013-09-22 17:04
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@ Randomuser, what r the display panel are you expecting from Z1? so far only sharp..
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Posted: 2013-09-22 17:05
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JDI and Sharp

No JDI reported yet.
tai020381
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Posted: 2013-09-22 17:06
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Photo quality... ifruit 5s vs Note 3 vs Z1... Night shots vs too!~

http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobi[....]07/1/rv/sony-xperia-z1-review/
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Posted: 2013-09-22 17:18
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^

Nice shootout. Iphone 5S and Z1 are definitely much better than Note 3. Iphone 5S and Z1 are close, but that's 8MP vs 20 MP. Z1 pics resized to 8MP will be quite a lot better than Iphone 5s
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Posted: 2013-09-22 17:43
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@geoffxx - did you see the post from supercoolman? he said he got his 64gb microsd to work in his Z1. I believe he let his Z1 format his card though? I'm not sure. When I get my Z1 and MSD card, I will try it right out of the box (it's preformatted at exFat, I believe) and let you know if it is indeed an exFat support issue and what I do to fix it

@supercoolman - can you clarify?

@randomuser - i got the apk and will test it out once i get my Z1.. of course posting comparison pics for all you geeks here. i'll see if i can find out the display too, but since i got it from the UK, i'm guessing sharp as well.

@anybody else - really, at this point if you are still trying to trash the screen, give it up. if you haven't touched one with your own hands, seen one with your own hands, then you have no opinion. it's as simple as that. before release, it could be tolerated from videos and whatever, but now it's out. go look at it. and enough with the same bullsh!t already.. it's clear that the vast majority of Z1 OWNERS are very happy with their screen.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-22 17:02 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-22 17:52
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On 2013-09-22 17:43:46, moogoo wrote:
@anybody else - really, at this point if you are still trying to trash the screen, give it up. if you haven't touched one with your own hands, seen one with your own hands, then you have no opinion. it's as simple as that. before release, it could be tolerated from videos and whatever, but now it's out. go look at it. and enough with the same bullsh!t already.. it's clear that the vast majority of Z1 OWNERS are very happy with their screen.


The screen is great from what I saw. I didn't see any view angle problems mentioned by review sites. I am looking forward to seeing your photos as I'm concerned about the noise more than anything as mine will be here in a few days. But yeah, the screen is pretty kick-ass.
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Posted: 2013-09-22 17:56
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with good screens on all retail version so far, people are still trashing screen.

I will always prefer Z1 screen over this...
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Posted: 2013-09-22 18:05
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So, I was poking around the sonymobile UK site and reading the Z1 info again.. ya know.. for fun. and the main website lists the Z1 (NOTE this is the UK site which should have C6903), as having BOTH 4 and 17 LTE bands (which is obviously not correct). What's worse, is when you click on the whitepaper link on the same page, it gives you the white paper for C6902, which doesn't even support LTE.

Sony has always been bad at getting their website information right.. but damn.. they need to do better. it can't be THAT difficult to have people quality check the information and links on their flagship device!
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Posted: 2013-09-22 18:10
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On 2013-09-22 17:18:14, randomuser wrote:
^

Nice shootout. Iphone 5S and Z1 are definitely much better than Note 3. Iphone 5S and Z1 are close, but that's 8MP vs 20 MP. Z1 pics resized to 8MP will be quite a lot better than Iphone 5s



Z1 trashes the iphone 5s! the iphone 5s process everything to much !! look at the dark scenes, there is no detail left! they suppress nois too much !

another thing: 100% crops of both iphone 5s and xperia z1 (z1 is down sampled to 8mp) in day light:

Z1 IS ON THE LEFT



now look at how much more picture the wide lens of the z1 gives you:

now to fill all the picture in the iphone 5s, you need to back away, which will at the end, gives you less detail!
now think at landscape shots.... i think you got what i'm talking about..

the z1 offers a great camera, anyone says other ways is just an idiot.
as for the 20mp shots, sony needs to improve the nois reduction a bit, and everything should be fine.


it just shows you how much bullshit the reviewers write, while the praise the iphone's 5s camera, they talk crap about the one on the z1.
but the facts shows that the Z1 is better shooter !!
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Posted: 2013-09-22 18:10
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I tried the lenovo camera app on my padfone infinity, the photo quality actually dropped a notch compared the default camera app, looked like every photo was shot at high ISO even if it was set to 50. Maybe it works better on the Z1.
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Posted: 2013-09-22 20:30
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On 2013-09-22 02:22:22, moogoo wrote:
^so many exclamations!

so if it brings up the setup dialog.. why don't you set it up?

Highly doubt it is a Z1 issue.



That is the problem. You can Setup the key but nothing Else. Every key is mentioned as smartkey, so no other function will work. Same with other headsets.
Ciao

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Posted: 2013-09-22 22:59
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*sigh* Still waiting for Sony Mobile Canada to say anything about a Z1 release date.

On the subject of the screen and viewing angles, I have just one question. Even at its worst, how should the viewing angles compare to something like my original Sony Tablet S?
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Posted: 2013-09-23 00:17
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^you're gonna have to find someone who has both. i don't have a tablet S so i can't answer your question

What I will do is take video of the Z1 with my XS and move it slowly from head on position and horizontally down to 90 degrees either way and then vertically 90 degrees either way. that will give you an idea of viewing angles, at least for my Z1. Of course, I will let you know if the camera on the XS is showing something different than what I am seeing with my own eyes. I will also do the test at different brightness levels and using different photos (dark/black colors, vibrant and colorful, white/light colors). All in all, probably about 9 or 12 different videos. Hopefully, it will help everyone still on the fence about a Z1

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