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XperiaJunkie
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On 2013-09-20 14:46:34, Miki69 wrote:
can you comment on QX10 vs Z1 camera? I mean,other than zoom capabilities, any noticeable difference?
@sponse
Those are the photos from Virgile Fontaine I have mentioned earlier - superb!
Cheers,
Miki
[ This Message was edited by: Miki69 on 2013-09-20 13:47 ]
I have only spent a short time with the lens so I cant really comment that much but what I will say is they are as good as each other at first glance. I will have more time to play later on tonight. I will update asap.
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XperiaJunkie
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On 2013-09-20 15:02:02, dibdin wrote:
How is the display in direct sunlight anyone?
unable to try in direct sunlight (i live in north east England dont get to se it that much lol) but have tried it under bright indoor light and it was fine unless the light is shining directly onto the screen and it is super bright but even then it was still decent no issues at all with bright lights sor far. 
I'm so happy 'cause today
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MNX1024
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On 2013-09-20 13:38:44, dibdin wrote:
Let us know if you have a good display or not, as some members on here and XDA have pointed out that there displays are far from perfect having purchased from Clove too.
Definitely will let everyone know. Just so everyone knows, I could care less about the viewing angle because I'm not going to be looking at it from an exaggerated angle. If I'm showing stuff to others on my phone, I'm not going to have 10 people huddle up looking at a single 5 inch screen or I'm just going to pass my phone to them. As long as it looks great head on, which is how it's going to be used majority of the time, I'm cool with it! |
dr.W
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On 2013-09-20 11:31:54, unknownC151A wrote:
I actually compared my Xperia ion's display with Xperia Z1's and ion came out brighter and with deeper blacks.
Furthermore, I took shots with the Z1 today and post progressing in clearly evident. I did not Bluetooth those samples but there's like a lot white-grey specks and weird streaks when zoomed in.
Overall, it's a great phone. The dinosaur mode was fun. Not many people know, but you actually move those dinosaurs and trees around.
Timeshift mode was also interesting.
With all due respect your comments about the Z1's display are not very helpful to anyone here as its simply a description of what you saw. I could come on here and say the same thing even though I own neither of those phones. Please post a picture so everyone can see how the displays compare. |
unknownC151A
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On 2013-09-20 15:42:58, dr.W wrote:
On 2013-09-20 11:31:54, unknownC151A wrote:
I actually compared my Xperia ion's display with Xperia Z1's and ion came out brighter and with deeper blacks.
Furthermore, I took shots with the Z1 today and post progressing in clearly evident. I did not Bluetooth those samples but there's like a lot white-grey specks and weird streaks when zoomed in.
Overall, it's a great phone. The dinosaur mode was fun. Not many people know, but you actually move those dinosaurs and trees around.
Timeshift mode was also interesting.
With all due respect your comments about the Z1's display are not very helpful to anyone here as its simply a description of what you saw. I could come on here and say the same thing even though I own neither of those phones. Please post a picture so everyone can see how the displays compare.
I'm just saying my ion is noticebly brighter and have deeper blacks. Hard to imagine? You've to wait. I don't head to the city everyday. |
Bonovox
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Noticed something in Sony threads is a lot of bickering,problems etc yet the Samsung threads have no such thing and all users are happy. Wonder why?? 
Phone?? What phone?? |
moogoo
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@bonovox - because a lot of haters come to the sony thread to cause trouble? 
@admad - if you actually read my post, i said the SUPERIOR AUTO samples of the Z1 are just as good if not better than the Note 3's. I concede the 20mp samples aren't very good for whatever reason. But the Superior Auto is just as good, if not better than Note 3. Yet there's such a disparity in how GSMarena rates the camera. Obviously, the capability is the same, if not better than Note 3, with potential to be much much greater. Yet, GSMarena says it's a disappointment, while praising Note 3.
@geoffxx - haha. glad you're enjoying your Z1 man. where did you order from?
@xperiajunkie - good to know you are impressed with the screen! where did you order from?
@MNX - didn't you preorder awhile ago? why did it take so long to ship? hmm.. Maybe i should order soon so i don't have to wait too long after ordering haha..
@unknown - i think everyone appreciates the information you bring to esato, but damn man.. you are very combative in your responses. relax dude 
@aurelius - thanks for your information and comments. I sincerely hope it's not an internal issue that keeps the camera from being the best it can be. Knowing how Japanese people are, I'm a bit shocked they would be satisfied with how the 20mp quality is (at the very least) and not continue to improve the camera in every way.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-20 16:06 ] moogoo
Nokia 5160 -> Nokia 8260 -> SE T68i -> SE K700i -> SE Z710 -> SE Xperia X10a -> Sony Xperia S -> Sony Xperia Z1 -> Sony Xperia XZ -> Sony Xperia XZ Premium -> Sony Xperia 1ii
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sponse
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phone arena screen specs of z1:
max brightness: 495 (Good) [higher is better]
min brightness: 23 (poor) [lower is better]
CONTRAST: 1:1353 (Excellent) [higher is better]
color temperature: 7037 (Good)
DELTA E RGBCMY: 4.98 (Average) [lower is better]
DELTA E GRAYSCALE: 3.96 (Good) [lower is better]
if i compare this result with the LG G2 and the HTC ONE and s4
max brightness: z1 495 (Good) -- HTC ONE 460(Good) -- lg g2 438(Good) -- s4 288(poor)
1 point to the Z1
min brightness: z1 23 (poor) -- HTC ONE 14(poor) -- lg g2 8 (good) -- s4 10(Average)
1 point to the Lg G2
CONTRAST: z1 1:1353 (Excellent) -- HTC ONE 1:1781(Excellent) -- lg g2 1:1503 (Excellent) - s4 infinite
1 point to the S4 and one for the htc one because it is the better among the LCDs
color temperature: z1 7037(Good) -- HTC ONE 7656 (Average) -- lg g2 7931 (Average) - s4 7980 (Average)
1 point to the Z1
DELTA E RGBCMY: z1 4.98(Average) -- HTC ONE 5.76(Average) -- lg g2 4.44(Average) - s4 5.08 (Average)
1 point to the lg g2
DELTA E GRAYSCALE:z1 3.96(good) -- HTC ONE 4.36(Average) -- lg g2 5.76(Average) - s4 5.52(Average)
1 point to the Z1
Z1 - 3 points
G2- 2 points
S4- 1 point
HTC- 1 point
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MyP910
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On 2013-09-20 16:50:00, Bonovox wrote:
Noticed something in Sony threads is a lot of bickering,problems etc yet the Samsung threads have no such thing and all users are happy. Wonder why??
maybe because Sony is known as a premium brand. Their design be it Vaio, Bravia, Xperia etc spell premium. Maybe due to this, any small problem (even though it is not a problem) will be amplified because of the high expectation from such premium brand. That is why you hear people complain about the display and viewing angle when it is one of the best far better than the latest Note 3. People also complain about the camera when it is the best smartphone camera to date as seen from various sample pictures.
and it seems that some people jump to conclusion quickly without give a proper judgment. For example, when 3 out of 10 reports criticise the phone, some people will say the phone is bad ignoring the other 7 positive reports.
or maybe, sony's fan don't like to troll 😉
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moogoo
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@sponse - nice compilation/summary there. thanks! was that part of their full review?
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MNX1024
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@Moogoo The white on is delayed at most places in the UK. Clove just got their stock in for the white Z1. Black is available and shipped though. |
sponse
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it could be, i found that in the LG G2 review, their is a chart, and you can add a phone to the chart, and i found the z1 in the options, seems that they are in the final stages of the review.
so we have an excellent screen (don't know about viewing angels). but from the numbers above its really shins.
as for the points, i did that
if you will give in each category 4 point to the first place, 3 to second, 2 to the third, and 1 point to the last
you will have that
the xperia z comes first with 17 points in overall performance of the screen
HTC ONE AND LG G2 are tied with 15 points
and the last place goes to the superamoled S4 with just 13 points.
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moogoo
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@MNX - aw man. sounds like i need to order sooner to make sure i get it when I want it
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MNX1024
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@Moogoo Well, if the White is the one you want, then you should be fine at the moment because Clove still list it as in stock on their website. That probably means they had enough to fulfill pre-orders and still have some left for regular orders. Now, for the black, seems like it's sold out and more stock is coming in the following Monday.
The wait for it is worse than waiting for the White to be in stock.........  |
ascariss
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On 2013-09-20 16:50:00, Bonovox wrote:
Noticed something in Sony threads is a lot of bickering,problems etc yet the Samsung threads have no such thing and all users are happy. Wonder why??
Because, once you start it up, you see touchwiz and then well any other problems/bickering seem like nothing when compared to touchwiz  |
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