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Tsepz_GP
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So it seems despite only supporting Core Migration, Samsung's Exynos Octa GS4 not only beat the majority of its Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 competitors at power efficiency but it has also destroyed most of its Snapdragon 800 competitors at it, strange as we were told the S800 was far more efficient, maybe the other OEMs are just rubbish at optimization , the I9500 was only beaten by the S600 GS4 which is using the AB version of the S600 and the HTC Butterfly S which has a huge 4000mAh battery.
GS4 Octa vs. S800 rivals:
Galaxy S4 I9500 Octa Core:
Xperia Z Ultra:
Xperia Z1 (with a much bigger 3000mAh battery):
LG G2 (3000mah battery but with 5.2inch display):
LG are the ones who actually done a bit of justice for the S800, despite having it clocked at 2.3GHz vs. 2.2GHz by Sony, they still manage to produce some decent results.
I hope the Galaxy S4 S800 and Galaxy Note 3 S800 do some true justice for this chip, as so far the other OEMs have done a truly rubbish job.
Anyone here own the GS4 with S800?
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My main problem with the stats on the S4 is the talk time- it is shocking compared to the other three.
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etaab
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I think they might have cocked something up there. I cant see the phone having such a strangely poor score like that.
As good as their battery testing technique is, its not an exact science. Mind you I charge my phone daily regardless and have done since phones went with colour screens and I never spend 11 hours a day making calls.
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Wishmaster89
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@Tsepz_GP
And where did you get that number for Butterfly S battery? It's 3200 and not 4000. Get your facts straight before posting messages like that.
You seem to know a thing or two about mobile devices but your messages tell different story.
First of all, i9500 S4 has the lowest talk time which means that when the screen is out of the equation its battery life is the worst - less than half of what ZU, Z1 and G2 can achieve. Which means that it is the least efficient. Don't you agree on that? You can't deny it, numbers speak for themselves.
Secondly, due to the nature of the screen, AMOLED will always work better for videos and with lower brightness will always drew less power than LCD. Just look at S4 active.
Thirdly, you can't say that G2 did justice to S800. Look at those scores. They're better than what i9500 achieved and yet it scored lower. Why? Because they weren't able to fix standby time. With GSMArena's methodology and with optimized standby mode it should have scored at least 80h just like butterfly S but LG screwed standby power optimization. |
Tsepz_GP
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Thought I had fixed the Butterfly S battery info, my bad 
Either way, none of the S800 devices managed to touch the I9500 or I9505, which is quite shocking the Talk times of the Sonys are ruined by everything else, so unless you only use your smartphone for calls, you are in for disappointment compared to other flagships.
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Wishmaster89
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You didn't get my point at all.
Talk times shows that i9500(octa version) is less efficient in purely CPU and baseband actions than s800. Fact!
LG2 achieved higher scores than i9500 in all 3 tests that GSMArena does. Undeniable fact!
Too high standby draw is what in the end crippled G2's score. So if you're power user that uses his device almost all the time and doesn't care about standby power G2 is better device than both models of S4. [b]Don't you agree considering the scores? [/b
]And no, LG G2 not only touched but it exceeded scores achieved by i9500 in all active scenarios, if only LG fixes standby power draw than S4 will have nothing to say in this regard. Don't you agree, considering the scores achieved by both devices?
About Sony's score. As I said before, LCD draws more power than AMOLED then it's no surprise that it achieves lower score but compared to G2 at least it has very low standby power draw. |
Tsepz_GP
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times shows that i9500(octa version) is less efficient in purely CPU and baseband actions than s800. Fact!
Baseband actions, yes, the Broadcom chip that the Exynos uses seems to be less power efficient here.
End of the day, we are focussing in the overall endurance rating here, this is where GSMArena have done bits of everything to recreate "real world usage", and in that, despite the less power efficient Broadcom chip in the Exynos, it clearly has better overall efficiency than the others. Yes, the G2 did great in the individual tests, except, no person will use it just for calls, just for web browsing or just for video playback. Unfortunately it's poor stand by efficiency has kept it from crushing the competition and LG aren't exactly great with SW Updates, I hope they change that as the G2 has everything else going for it.
WRT the Sony's and LCD panel, well that's just too bad, they should've worked harder, the Z1 has a shocking score for a phone with a 3000mAh battery and 5.0inch display, it should be in the 60s easily, the S4 Active also has a LCD and it faired better:
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Wishmaster89
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And here you have scores that show something completely different than what GSMArena reported
http://forum.xda-developers.c[....]st.php?p=45819837&postcount=39
How do you respond to that?
10hrs of video playback with 40% brightness, not too shabby for an LCD screen and 3000mah battery although still not as good as G2. Would be nice of GSMArena to redo their battery test on another sample of Z1, those scores are too low to be true and you should know that.
Now you agree that G2 achieved better individual scores than all variants of S4 and yet one post earlier you were shocked that s800 wasn't able to match energy efficiency of exynos octa and s600 when you can clearly see that it's not the case of hardware but software? You'll probably praise the s4 equipped with s800 and say how efficient it is compared to s600 and octa. Don't you agree? |
Tsepz_GP
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 I love you Sony fans, I remember just sometime ago many of you saying you will wait for a GSMArena review, now the results haven't gone in your favour and so you're questioning GSMArena. This is why Sony gets away with half baked SW and poorly implemented HW each time. The excuses just keep getting better, I must hand it to you guys, each more creative than the last.
Excuse me did you read my original post? I was shocked that the S800 BASED devices didn't beat the Exynos overall, and they certainly havent, I then questioned if this due to poor optimizations by the OEMs, its actually quite clear throughout my post that I blame the OEMs e.g Sony, I havent made a final conclusion on the S800, it's very clear in my post, you very conveniently chose to ignore that in an effort to excuse Sony.
The issue isn't just software, especially with the Sonys, it seems their LCD panels are sucking a lot of juice, its not because its LCD but because of how they made it, plenty other LCD phones have done well.
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Samsung Galaxy S4 tops 2013 Smartphone Repairability Index with 8 / 10 score 
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Tsepz_GP
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Check what SamMobile just tweeted
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Tsepz_GP
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4.3 is nearing fast folks SamMobile have leaked the I9505 FW and I've also found a leak of screenshots including an AnTuTu benchmark of the I9500, will post the latter when I find them again.
Leaked Android 4.3 test firmware for Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505)
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etaab
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And the S3 ?
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Tsepz_GP
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Galaxy S3 should get a leak soon to. Today they leaked for Note 2.
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Tsepz_GP
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I rest my case, Samsung have done the Snapdragon 800 a lot of justice, seems the other manufacturers are rather useless at proper optimization as I thought, it's a damn shame.
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Posted: 2013-09-20 12:11
