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Wishmaster89
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Posted: 2013-03-08 12:10
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On 2013-03-08 11:53:55, Tsepz_GP wrote:
This has to be the longest excuse I've ever read!
WRT Battery, Stamina Mode, Power Save was not turned On on the Samsung either, and Samsung also further optimise power management and memory management via updates, the S3 was on ICS when it got that 50hours, in 4.1.2 battery has taken quite a boost.
Thanks for a good laugh though!


Actually, when it was on ICS it got 43 hours and only with JB it got 50 hours. All according to GSMArena, so get you facts straight before laughing
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Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2013-03-08 12:27
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On 2013-03-08 12:10:30, Wishmaster89 wrote:

On 2013-03-08 11:53:55, Tsepz_GP wrote:
This has to be the longest excuse I've ever read!
WRT Battery, Stamina Mode, Power Save was not turned On on the Samsung either, and Samsung also further optimise power management and memory management via updates, the S3 was on ICS when it got that 50hours, in 4.1.2 battery has taken quite a boost.
Thanks for a good laugh though!


Actually, when it was on ICS it got 43 hours and only with JB it got 50 hours. All according to GSMArena, so get you facts straight before laughing
[ This Message was edited by: Wishmaster89 on 2013-03-08 11:11 ]



Oh yes! You are indeed correct! They used the early leaked Android4.1.1 Update when they got 50hours, welĺ then, that thoroughly proves my point on the fact that they optimise power management with updates, thats a whole 7hours added, and then a further boost was added in Android4.1.2 in the recent XELLA update, which in the last week already got another update, XEMB1 , so as we speak its already pushing well OVER 50hours awesome.
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Wishmaster89
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Posted: 2013-03-08 12:46
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On 2013-03-08 12:27:05, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Oh yes! You are indeed correct! They used the early leaked Android4.1.1 Update when they got 50hours, welĺ then, that thoroughly proves my point on the fact that they optimise power management with updates, thats a whole 7hours added, and then a further boost was added in Android4.1.2 in the recent XELLA update, which in the last week already got another update, XEMB1 , so as we speak its already pushing well OVER 50hours awesome.


To tell you the truth, without any kind of measurements it's just your opinion. Sorry but only consistent testing of firmware updates could be in any way indicative of improvements.
Without it it's just your or someones measurement based on his workload.
Tsepz_GP
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Posted: 2013-03-08 13:16
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On 2013-03-08 12:46:07, Wishmaster89 wrote:

On 2013-03-08 12:27:05, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Oh yes! You are indeed correct! They used the early leaked Android4.1.1 Update when they got 50hours, welĺ then, that thoroughly proves my point on the fact that they optimise power management with updates, thats a whole 7hours added, and then a further boost was added in Android4.1.2 in the recent XELLA update, which in the last week already got another update, XEMB1 , so as we speak its already pushing well OVER 50hours awesome.


To tell you the truth, without any kind of measurements it's just your opinion. Sorry but only consistent testing of firmware updates could be in any way indicative of improvements.
Without it it's just your or someones measurement based on his workload.


In that case, we've got 48hrs for the Z and 50hrs for the GS3 and unless GSMArena do another test, whatever else is said by an individual is their opinion, but since we have had the latter device for a while we can safely assume it is over 50hrs due to users seeing improvement, while with the Z we will have to wait, will be interesting to see how the Xperia Z, Htc One, Note2, GS3 AND GS4 will perform once they ALL have Android4.2, the Samsungs should have 4.2 by end of this month, not sure about the others.
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Wishmaster89
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Posted: 2013-03-08 13:40
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On 2013-03-08 13:16:45, Tsepz_GP wrote:
In that case, we've got 48hrs for the Z and 50hrs for the GS3 and unless GSMArena do another test, whatever else is said by an individual is their opinion, but since we have had the latter device for a while we can safely assume it is over 50hrs due to users seeing improvement, while with the Z we will have to wait, will be interesting to see how the Xperia Z, Htc One, Note2, GS3 AND GS4 will perform once they ALL have Android4.2, the Samsungs should have 4.2 by end of this month, not sure about the others.



According to rumours XZ should get 4.2.2 by the end of march.
MyP910
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Posted: 2013-03-08 15:02
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I can understand the different between S3 and XZ for the video playback due to the higher resolution on the XZ, but why the 3G talktime has a big different between them ? Xperia Z can last 4 hours longer than S3. Why ?
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Posted: 2013-03-08 15:17
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On 2013-03-08 15:02:00, MyP910 wrote:
I can understand the different between S3 and XZ for the video playback due to the higher resolution on the XZ, but why the 3G talktime has a big different between them ? Xperia Z can last 4 hours longer than S3. Why ?


Newer antenna technology that comes with the Qualcomm SoC.
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Posted: 2013-03-08 15:20
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Obvious troll is obvious. I'm not making excuses for the Z. Unless because I was stating the tests were unfair for LCDs I'm making excuses for the HTC One, One X, iP5, Optimus G, G pro etc.

One point of the post was saying it was a good result. Then I explained why the S3 can not be used as a comparison, and thus pointed out the unfairness of the test. Keep failing.
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Posted: 2013-03-08 17:01
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So essentially you are making an excuse, the other phones just make it more convenient. Even among the LCDs of those phones there are major differences e.g. The LCD of the iPhone5 is much smaller than the others at 4.0inches and has a completely different resolution, then get on to the sort of SoC used, then memory management, CPU clock speed, we could go on and on and get deeper and deeper into the differences in a desperate attempt to make your point valid, and we would come to the conclusion that actually, nit picking the results the way you have will lead us nowhere.

What GSMArena do is try put the phones through the sort of usage that most users would do, they try as much as they can to then even up the playing ground e.g. Setting screen to a certain brightness etc...

If you can't accept GSMArenas results then just say so, but to make excuses and claim bias, well that...that is certainly as you say, "failing".
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Karun
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Posted: 2013-03-08 17:10
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Those who've already got the Z in India, how is the screen? No issues hopefully
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sambouka
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Posted: 2013-03-08 17:19
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Here is my small experience with SXZ a week after receiving it.

Screen
I compared it with the Xperia T, the Z is little bit less bright at 100%, which is good, T is way too bright I believe.
Colors and videos look great, blacks are OK at normal brightness. The screen is lovely and people are wowed when they look at pictures or movies.

Stamina mode
Is great for expanding battery life, you choose the applications you like to keep active when Stamina is on, the Z kills the others and it works
More than 6 hours after charging the battery was still at 100%.



Battery
Screen at high levels of brightness consumes a lot of battery.
Overall I find the Z to have a very moderate battery consumption on standby!
Therefore with an average usage (and 3 emails syncs and whatsapp) after 3 charges, battery is on 50 hours with 90 minutes of screen on(stamina mode is off).

Camera capabilities
I took the Z with me on a Ski trip to the French alps, we had beautiful sunny days and snowy days.
You can judge of the results, I'm posting many photos. Some of which were taken in Torino,Italy also.

Camera cold start is very slow compared to Xperia S or T, more than 4 to 5 seconds
Superior Auto mode is capable of the best and of the worst : During low light indoor conditions "Superior auto" chooses "Soft snap" and massacres everything by softening and eliminating noise.
Here is an example of 2 photos taken a few seconds away, results are very different:



Stabilizer is on by default, no options to disable it like in the normal mode.

UNDER THE SNOW







VARIOUS PHOTOS







Overall I found the photos to be good depending on the selected mode, and compared to my Xperia S, colors are natural.

I took 2 comparison shots with Sony DSCTX20 (16mpx, water and shock resistant compact camera, Exmor R with Carl Zeiss optics) not the best compact camera at all, but a good comparator I think.
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SXZ


SONY TX20


SXZ
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pbhat25
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Posted: 2013-03-08 17:23
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Anyone from Mumbai got their hands on XZ
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Posted: 2013-03-08 18:02
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I never found the T screen too bright at all and in stores the Z screen is a little dull to me. As for superior auto mode, I found it inaccurate on the T update. I was focusing on a night shot and it kept jumping between night scene and macro at a distance. I NEVER find any auto mode accurate on any camera. Making a night shot on the T on superior auto mode came out worse and more noisy than using manual settings.

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tapas123
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Posted: 2013-03-08 19:36
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Please don't open it

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/03/08/xperia-z-takes-the-piss/
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Posted: 2013-03-08 19:43
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Yes the rise of the toilet texter I remember masseur posted something about that once
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