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milukugiuniu
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Posted: 2013-02-25 04:43
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@ randomuser: What you mentioned about Walkman a few pages back is confirmed?
DACHA
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Posted: 2013-02-25 04:44
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On 2013-02-25 04:39:39, milukugiuniu wrote:

On 2013-02-25 03:57:16, randomuser wrote:
Well Dacha, I understand but this is the first time a Sony flagship has a truly "bad" screen. Xperia S, Ion, TX, T, V all had very good screens, only viewing angles were not perfect but on angle they were amazing.

Sony could have used LG 5 inch 1080p panels at least


Shall we expect the following batchs using good screens?


I am afraid it will be the same issues as it was with the Xperia S. Some phones had great screens and other had yellow spots like my XS. I ignored the issues for a long time but now I have a permanent yellow spot on the display even when the phone is not hot.

I sure hope that the ZL will have a different display. The Ion had an excellent display and so did the TL on AT&T.

Z to be released on KDDI as part of the summer collection with slight modification. The slight modification could be S600 or even S800
[ This Message was edited by: DACHA on 2013-02-25 03:52 ]
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Posted: 2013-02-25 04:55
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Since Qualcomm is ready to discontinue the S4 Pro and start the S600 production
They chance that "Slightly" change will be the S600 is really high
milukugiuniu
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Posted: 2013-02-25 05:00
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@ DACHA: What is the cause of the issue? Is Sony aware of the problem before the shippment? Since the problem has occured with XS, Sony should have learned to prevent such things happening again.

I will still get XZ despite of the screen isuue because I cannot wait that longer to the summer time. In the 2nd half, I hope to see a perfect device from Sony.
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Posted: 2013-02-25 05:18
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So to clarify, the Z does not ship with that screen calibration app? If it does have it, does it affect the screen issuse at all?
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Posted: 2013-02-25 05:38
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The point is, can this be solved with a firmware update?
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kurtdean
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Posted: 2013-02-25 05:40
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I think they put bad panel because its too thin to put a good one...

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I read on XDA they said only the japanese version has Great screen and the bad ones for the rest of the world
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2013-02-25 04:55 ]
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Posted: 2013-02-25 07:24
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Why sony? why? hopefully the screen issues will be solved and wont have great effect on its sales
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Posted: 2013-02-25 10:06
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On 2013-02-25 05:40:17, kurtdean wrote:
I think they put bad panel because its too thin to put a good one...

EDIT
I read on XDA they said only the japanese version has Great screen and the bad ones for the rest of the world
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2013-02-25 04:55 ]



There is no such thing as a thin "bad" panel. All IPS panels are the same thickness more or less. What I feel is perhaps JDI wasn't ready to ship its 5 inch 1080p panel when Z went into production in December last year. I could be wrong though.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-25 09:07 ]
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Posted: 2013-02-25 10:11
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On 2013-02-25 10:06:35, randomuser wrote:

On 2013-02-25 05:40:17, kurtdean wrote:
I think they put bad panel because its too thin to put a good one...

EDIT
I read on XDA they said only the japanese version has Great screen and the bad ones for the rest of the world
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2013-02-25 04:55 ]



There is no such thing as a thin "bad" panel. All IPS panels are the same thickness more or less. What I feel is perhaps JDI wasn't ready to ship its 5 inch 1080p panel when Z went into production in December last year. I could be wrong though.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-25 09:07 ]



Actually there is, they can produce the same item with different quality, there's nothing weird about it. I would love to see someone confront Sony, that means getting Japanese version put against European version side by side, and do the comparison, if they are different, then flash with the same software (as someone mentioned they have different screen settings) if there is still a difference, make a big fuss about it so Sony will learn it's lesson. Till then, Sony gives a shit, as they can always say it's software or one's "vision" dependent.
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Posted: 2013-02-25 10:27
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On 2013-02-25 07:24:21, buns wrote:
Why sony? why? hopefully the screen issues will be solved and wont have great effect on its sales


The bulk of sales will be from customers who are far more concerned with the size of the screen than the quality.
randomuser
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Posted: 2013-02-25 10:28
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But I don't understand how Japanese versions have better screens ? Japanese versions also wash out and have poor viewing angles.
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Posted: 2013-02-25 10:33
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I think we need to see some images of 2 Xperia Z side by side with exactly the same settings and see if there is genuinely an issue with the screens. We all have different expectations and see issues differently.

Anyone out there in such a position?

Would be hugely appreciated...

As mentioned I have handled 5 handsets and have not seen an issue on any.

Phones 4 U - Westfield, Chelmsford and Cheltenham
3 - Chelmsford and Westfield

Cheers
mediar
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Posted: 2013-02-25 11:07
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Well, while you're still waiting ( or actually only hoping ) for Sony to finally make a good and bugfree phone, with good screen, camera, music quality, processor, latest Android version with polished and good-looking custom UI, with proper product support and at reasonable prize, all in one, which I bet won't happen in this century, take a look at the real beast - HTC One! Samsung Galaxy 4 is around the corner too! Did I mentioned LG Optimus G? Or the newest Alcatel and Huawei additions, which have almost the same specs as your ultimately expensive Z, but in "better-looking box" and less than half the price.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2013-02-25 10:07 ]
The best mobile phone brand died with Sony Ericsson's death. Shame on you Sony for killing it! And, of course, for ruining the Xperia brand...
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rickster2kuk
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Posted: 2013-02-25 11:11
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Lots of massive billboard advertisements all over London for the Z. Sony are really pulling all the stops out on this.
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