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jianlin
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200mh different between international and korean s4....29k is 1.6ghz best score...3-4k different in antutu...
s800 score higher please...
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Ambivalent_
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On 2013-05-03 12:14:51, jianlin wrote:
200mhz different between international and korean s4....29k is 1.6ghz best score...3-4k different in antutu...
@Ramu;
On a serious note, since S800 full clock goes up to 34000 @ AnTuTu, any clock downgrade might get Honami slower even than S4, let alone Note 3. |
Tsepz_GP
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On 2013-05-03 12:14:51, jianlin wrote:
200mh different between international and korean s4....29k is 1.6ghz best score...3-4k different in antutu...
s800 score higher please...
[ This Message was edited by: jianlin on 2013-05-03 11:27 ]
WOW!  and the Korean version is only running at 1.8GHz, 500mhz slower than the 2.3GHz Snadragon 800, I think I saw the score of the S800 sitting at around 32K as well over at PhoneArena.
Hardly ever look in this topic, but every time I do pop in there's always some rather interesting facts been thrown around.
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jianlin
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the 2.3ghz s800 reference tablet score 32k only in antutu...on par with 1.8ghz exynos 5...
note 3 2ghz exynos 5 octa should score 34-36k
here shows that cortex a15 is much better..much higher IPC....jz hope that final version at least score 34-36k
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aamwng
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@Ambivalent_
LMAO
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Better software/ UI means faster and lag-less phones, less so the highest benchmark score holder.
Yes, it does affects it a bit, but we are focusing on the score too much
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jianlin
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xperia z vs htc one vs s4...the smoothest phone is htc one for me...xperia z and s4 got slightly lag...  |
Jubei1
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You cant really compare them in terms of clock frequency. Cortex A15 is a MASSIVE core, it has a much larger pipeline and the IPC advantage per clock is higher than Snapdragons. It was originally designed for servers, not smartphones.
Also i have been hearing Octa is not working properly, it was supposed to work via CPU migration but for whatever reason its stuck on cluster migration wich is inefficent and wastes power
I wouldnt focus too much on benchmarks anyway. Most benchmarks for phones are worthless and the few good ones only give a small glimpse, software optimizations are far more important.
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kewsvnet
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On 2013-05-03 09:22:43, tapas123 wrote:
On 2013-05-03 04:14:58, AbhiD999 wrote:
Galaxy s4 is being plagued by severe battery drain & display issues(big ones) on a very large scale... It's all over the net,
quite happy to hear that  !!!
Wow!! very happy and glad to hear this... it made my day 
i hope this plague spreads very fast and do some good to sony 
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seriously????...why do you want the competition to have problems, I'd much rather have SONY fix any problems they have and improve....isnt that how progress is meant to work? not hoping someone else has more problems than you! |
bipinm
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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_zr-5421.php
1.5GHz quad-core Qualcomm S4 Pro chipset
2 GB RAM
8 GB Internal memory
4.6 inch screen, 720p
ip58
13.1 MP camera
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reeflotz
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With processing power improving more and more the question is, where will people use such processing power on a mobile phone? Last time I checked we do not do 3d modeling/rendering, video encoding/conversion, physics calculation on a mobile phone So far I can only see this processing power used in photo editing, digital art creation but that's it. Heck even if a mobile phone is powerful enough to do CAD or 3D work how are we supposed to use it? by smudging the screen with our fingers? lol
I wish manufacturers would focus more on camera, music, battery and screen technology, imo that's more important in a mobile phone. Just like the old days when Nokia,  , samsung and lg were fighting for the best camera phones (C905, Omnia, Renoir, Nseries etc...)
I've stopped caring for benchmark results ever since dual core phones came out since they do the job fast enough that you would hardly notice the difference between 2, 4, 8 core on daily usage. GPU and RAM is different since you will still see the difference in the quality of games being brought by mobile phones.
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Ambivalent_
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So can anyone please explain to me how is that S4 with such high AnTuTu score (especially the Korean version) can't manage to record 1080p video @ 60 fps, and S800 (which is roughly on par in terms of AnTuTu) can not only perform 1080p @ 60 fps, but even 4K @ 30 fps. What's the deal with that?
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reeflotz
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^^ As far as I know it is not only the processor that needs to support the video recording, but the camera module as well needs to support 60fps in order to capture it at that framerate. Plus not everything is measured by benchmark scores it only shows the computing power, that's it.
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To add to that, several specific features also adds to what a processor can do, such as directly decode a specific video format/resolution in hardware (just like what you mentioned s800 supports 4k), hence why benchmarks only tell a part of it's capabilities, and that is also only theoretically, real life usage most of the time differs.
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MartenR
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How much is Sony's marketing budget? It seems to be even lower than LG. Today my Dad was telling my Mom that Sony is way behind Samsung and LG and he said 4k as an example. He said that LG and Samsung are going to revolutionize TV market with their UHD TVs but we all know that Sony is the frontier of 4k adoption. LG and Samsung here have ads all over the streets and squares but Sony nothing. How do they think they're going to sell products without consumers knowing that they exist? |
DACHA
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On 2013-05-03 13:40:44, Ambivalent_ wrote:
So can anyone please explain to me how is that S4 with such high AnTuTu score (especially the Korean version) can't manage to record 1080p video @ 60 fps, and S800 (which is roughly on par in terms of AnTuTu) can not only perform 1080p @ 60 fps, but even 4K @ 30 fps. What's the deal with that?
[ This Message was edited by: Ambivalent_ on 2013-05-03 12:41 ]
S4 would overheat and drain the battery before the recording was done
A phone with a 4" display that is only 5.6 mm thin
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RumrCollectr
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On 2013-05-03 13:40:44, Ambivalent_ wrote:
So can anyone please explain to me how is that S4 with such high AnTuTu score (especially the Korean version) can't manage to record 1080p video @ 60 fps, and S800 (which is roughly on par in terms of AnTuTu) can not only perform 1080p @ 60 fps, but even 4K @ 30 fps. What's the deal with that?
[ This Message was edited by: Ambivalent_ on 2013-05-03 12:41 ]
Encoding and decoding video using the CPU is extremely inefficient. In order to save battery life, those functions are done in a dedicated piece of hardware that's designed for the task. This hardware can't do general purpose computations (unlike the CPU) but they can do one specific task extremely quickly and with minimal power consumption.
Hence, the performance of the CPU has little (if anything) to do with the performance of video encoding and decoding as its a separate bit of hardware. This means that benchmarks won't tell you much. |
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