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moogoo
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Posted: 2013-08-28 19:19
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it would be absolutely silly for sony to put a screen in Z1 that's not as good as ZU's or comparable to the Z's after all the praise ZU has gotten and all the crap the Z has gotten.

I certainly hope they aren't THAT ballsy. less than a week til we find out. I'm really looking forward to it!!!

now.. if i could just pre-order one. this is the crappy thing about being an american.. sigh.
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Posted: 2013-08-28 19:26
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cheap international shipping, ftw.
moogoo
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Posted: 2013-08-28 19:28
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@ninja.. since when is international shipping ever cheap? :/ also, often times the prices are much higher to import AND i don't get the benefit of warranties
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CrownedAkuma
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Posted: 2013-08-28 19:49
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by the way have you seen the screen comparisons posted by an esato's user between ZL and ZU? it's embarassing
I knew that the Z and ZL screen was not that good (it was one of the reason why I passed) but guys...! this really show the difference in tech and how much the triluminos screen looks good I know that Z and ZL had that bad gray color for menus and bars and this really detract point when comparing them to others, but still the screen is on another level!
Transparent navbar and menu FTW...
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=205835&start=300
Look for the post of Luwi78...
IF Z1 will have this
SONY WILL RAPE EVERYBODY OUT THERE

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Posted: 2013-08-28 20:34
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On 2013-08-28 19:28:38, moogoo wrote:
@ninja.. since when is international shipping ever cheap? :/ also, often times the prices are much higher to import AND i don't get the benefit of warranties



Actually I've been importing my phones up until the last 4 years because America never gets the good phones or gets them literally a year later. Shipping wasn't that expensive, and for most part, cheaper than getting it in the US. I also had the luxury of just buying the phone in Hong Kong since I or a family member visit quite often. Though, like you say, no warranty since it's a grey market product. But I remember that SONY USA use to honor non US version of their SE phones, not sure if it's the same anymore. Claimed warranty for my K800i once. I highly recommend Plemix if you're going the import route. Negri Electronics is also good because they will help you claim warranty at the country of origin, but they're a bit expensive compare to Plemix.

Plemix is actually cheaper by $55 with the C6602 model of Z compare to Newegg(cheapest non grey market price).
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Vit
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Posted: 2013-08-28 20:35
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I hate being a troll, but the real troll here was a certain random user and its XR5-God-confirmed info regarding the Honami.

I told you it would be laughable!
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CrownedAkuma
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Posted: 2013-08-28 20:42
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On 2013-08-28 20:35:09, Vit wrote:
I hate being a troll, but the real troll here was a certain random user and its XR5-God-confirmed info regarding the Honami.

I told you it would be laughable!


What did he canned??? Only the Sensor size... 1/1.5 vs 1/2.3... and the Xenon flash...the rest?
battery.check
screen.check
flapless 3.5 jack.check
CPU.check
G lens.check
interchangable lense.check (see the lens camera)
design.check
How can you say such nonsense staement???

This is free bias...

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Posted: 2013-08-28 20:44
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@CrownedAkuma
holy god, makes you wonder how could sony release z/zl with that screen quality, i think my w800i screen was better.
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Posted: 2013-08-28 21:01
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@moogoo yea relative to the phone price if you add the opportunity cost of waiting for it to release from certified us retailers its not so bad.. usually end up being cheaper for me. the warranty is questionable but sony has been excellent to me and their high end products regardless of where ive purchased from, from PS3 to my MDR's (2 foreign units repaired). I dont think that because you purchase from another country that voids the warranty, its still a sony product.

we should ONLY expect ONE device, and anything extra, is just that... need to adapt our temperment, however everything, and i do mean EVERYTHING funnels through esato before it blows up. Central SMC hub..

for having made such a large deal about the bezel for them to release a phone with that SOLE intention, for them to ignore that progress and make a device with an even smaller ratio seems to defy logic. you should see the research they did analyzing hundreds of devices.. yet i dont expect to see a ZL1 however much i would love for it to exist. Either way this Z1 should meet my fancy for a while... I just hope we can get decent storage (64GB)

IF the device has 4K, i hope that Sony implements Global Shutter.. that would be AMAZING!
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moogoo
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Posted: 2013-08-28 21:11
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@ninja true true.

I hope honami has 4K video recording. Not cause I want to use it, just to say I can

I do wish I had the money for a 4K TV though.. anyone willing to donate to my 4K TV fund? I accept paypal.
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Posted: 2013-08-28 21:12
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On 2013-08-28 15:35:01, Ambroos wrote:
Once again, don't expect a handset smaller than Honami with the same specs (no Snapdragon 800, most likely no 20MP cam). There might be a smaller high-end phone, but it won't be Honami-high-end.

Those specs on Alpha Rumours came from PDA DB and were just wrong. (Which is why they were removed from the site.)



I am honestly having trouble figuring out what you base your ....opinion.... on, the only difference I see between the Z1 and a Mini version would be the screen and the battery being smaller - the device might even be a little thicker, now anyone that understands the tech will know why I'm saying this


The problem with forums like these is people give random opinions without actually explaining why they are saying what they are saying - smaller screen requires smaller battery - the camera and the CPU and GPU have nothing to do with it
CrownedAkuma
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Posted: 2013-08-28 21:14
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@myninja
what is this "global shutter" you talked about? you mentioned it a few time
BTW me too I'm hoping for at least 32 GB of internal storgae (+64 GB of mirco SD... memory is never enough )
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Posted: 2013-08-28 21:16
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On 2013-08-28 15:54:03, amirprog wrote:

On 2013-08-28 15:51:25, randomuser wrote:
^

It looks much smaller than your Z Look carefully

no, it's not. his z is smaller, no need to be a scientist. you can see that because the usb cable head of the honami is smaller then his usb head. and if you do zoom in a bit on the honami pic (which will be accurate size of the usb head) then z will be slightly smaller. it is the honami.
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and you are assuming the Z1 usb is in the same location as the XZ - I'm bot sure that it is, on the left side of the Z! I have only seen the Micro SD card cover sorry if I missed something
kewsvnet
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Posted: 2013-08-28 21:27
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On 2013-08-28 21:14:28, CrownedAkuma wrote:
@myninja
what is this "global shutter" you talked about? you mentioned it a few time
BTW me too I'm hoping for at least 32 GB of internal storgae (+64 GB of mirco SD... memory is never enough )
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2013-08-28 20:16 ]



http://scorpionvision.co.uk/FAQRetrieve.aspx?ID=37060
CrownedAkuma
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Posted: 2013-08-28 21:31
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@kewsvnet
@myninja

Thanks BOTH
A really interesting tech!
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