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vivftp
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Posted: 2012-12-12 09:26
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So what is it, S Master is the best of the best for non audiophile level portable gear?


tapas123
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Posted: 2012-12-12 09:35
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Wow so this S-master...can we see it in Yuga
bipinm
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Posted: 2012-12-12 09:36
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sorry...mistake
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khayjason
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Posted: 2012-12-12 09:38
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On 2012-12-12 08:29:03, randomuser wrote:
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S-Master MX is a digital amplifier found in Sony Walkman players. It will be present in C430X Xperia W.......... oops.


Xperia Walkman?
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Posted: 2012-12-12 10:00
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On 2012-12-12 09:26:06, vivftp wrote:
So what is it, S Master is the best of the best for non audiophile level portable gear?


the iPhone 4 or even the Htc One S are the most audiophile phones out there and they are even better than many portable audio gears including most of the Sony Walkman series that carries an S-Master amplifier.

An amplifier or technology (Clear audio) doesn't make any difference by itself. DAC is important but also the impedance through headphones output. Sony is actually offering products with many audio technologies but they need to fix their headphones output and stop limiting volumes levels.

Another thing that they need to fix is gapless reproduction.

randomuser
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Posted: 2012-12-12 10:04
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That's something I just can't agree. Iphone has many years to go before it can match the sound quality of Sony Walkman Z/F etc. Sony Walkman Z can come close to the most niche audiophile portable gear in terms of sound quality. Iphone/Galaxy S3 are not even close to Walkman E series and such.

Anyway, who is ready for Xperia Z/ZX ?
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Posted: 2012-12-12 10:18
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For February 680€ is justified, but mid March & 680€? Ridiculous, because APQ 8064 will get beaten up by Cortex A-15 chips from Nvidia & Samsung. Sony needs to price Yuga 50€ below SGSIV to compete, and by mid March SGSIV will already be announced. 600€ is justified for early 2Q, but not a cent higher.
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Posted: 2012-12-12 10:19
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Welcome 100th page


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I can smell Odin + Yuga final names
randomuser
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Posted: 2012-12-12 10:27
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marcink, those are RRP not what the phones will actually cost.

@Xajel

That's right
thejosetree
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Posted: 2012-12-12 10:35
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@randomuser

Sorry, but you are wrong

iPhone 4S:



Sony Walkman Z series:




Even the Sony-Ericsson Zylo has a better result than most of Walkman Series with their S-Master amplifier:

http://www.markuskraus.com/RMAA/zylo-hpm77/data.htm

http://www.markuskraus.com/RMAA/rmaa%20complete%20-%20html.html


marcink
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Posted: 2012-12-12 10:37
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Yes, I know, but seem to high for such a late (if mid March is true for Europe) release!
SGS rrp was 599€, as far as I can remember, so I'm shocked! Little chance to gain momentum for Sony:(
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randomuser
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Posted: 2012-12-12 10:47
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On 2012-12-12 10:35:51, thejosetree wrote:
@randomuser

Sorry, but you are wrong

iPhone 4S:



Sony Walkman Z series:




Even the Sony-Ericsson Zylo has a better result than most of Walkman Series with their S-Master amplifier:

http://www.markuskraus.com/RMAA/zylo-hpm77/data.htm

http://www.markuskraus.com/RMAA/rmaa%20complete%20-%20html.html





Those graphs don't tell you anything much. Listen to a Walkman Z series and Iphone/Ipod Touch anything and trust me, if you find that Iphone sounds better I will buy you Sony Yuga, Odin, Phablet as well as 9 inch 2013 Sony tablet and ship them all to your doorstep.

Or you can simply head over to head-fi.org to know what Sony walkman players are capable of and how average iphone is for sound quality.
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thejosetree
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Posted: 2012-12-12 11:04
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I had an iTouch 4, Xperia S, T, TX, ION, Zune HD, Walkman Z and an iTouch 5. I have also heard an iPhone 4s. I can say for sure that the best of all it's the iTouch 5 followed by the iPhone 4S. The Walkman Z sounds very similar to Xperia S or T/TX. I've heard all of this with a very sensitive iem.

Believe me, the S-Master doesn't make any difference. It's a gimmick, like Clear Audio on Xperia V.
randomuser
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Posted: 2012-12-12 11:26
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Well that's your opinion them.
lewko
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Posted: 2012-12-12 12:12
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C430 X seems to me like a perfect fit for me.
I hope it is Xperia P successor, with a 720p WM screen, Krait-like power and a bit like arc/XT design.
Premium finish would be great. and 8Mpix RS sensor with proper software is just fine.
And if S-master MX is there... perfect
I really hope it will be introduced at CES2013 and available soon after..

Really dont need 5 inch screens in my pocket, need to keep some room for something else there...
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