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On 2013-07-15 14:47:51, randomuser wrote:
@Ambi

Razec mentioned nothing about BIONZ

On 2013-07-15 13:32:22, razec wrote:
I think the credit should go to the guy who trusted me and gave those samples for me to review

BTW if the BIONZ engine is VM based I don't think it would make a difference as compared to a HW based processing. ISPs are responsible for processing digital information collected through the photosites of the sensor and outputing them as readable digital image. powerful ISPs can perform more complex operation such as RAW processing, Noise Reduction and can even allow for higher burst speed at full resolution. basically just like CPUs and GPUs alike, they observe the same computing theory, the faster the ISP the more it can do, this is why top of the line cameras like the canon 1Dx that have two Digic5 chips and could do 14FPS burst rate while still being able to perform complex JPEG processing that outclasses every competing DSLRs in the market like their own single chip 5DMkIII.

Now if that software based BIONZ engine is programmed to perform processing algorithms similar to what a HW based chip would do, the question would now be, is S800 powerful enough to run this VM? I don't know for sure, while S800 is a very powerful chip, there is no single android app in existence that could harness the raw computing muscle of it. I believe Sony must have determined the extent of processing power this chip has, and has decided to leave the work on the chip since they deemed it powerful enough to do the work without necessitating a dedicated silicon.

On 2013-07-15 15:09:30, razec wrote:
@Ambi

I was just giving my insights on the difference between a software and a HW implementation. but to clarify things up, I have no idea what method Sony could have used on honami

BTW if you guys think a 1/2.3" sensor is not up to scratch, you can check this out

Sony HX50 ISO100, 20MP G lens 1/2.3" sample, Imaging-resource.com

and compare it with the sample from galaxy camera

Samsung Galaxy Camera ISO100 16MP 1/2.3" sensor

But please, make no mistake, I'm not giving hints about the sensor size used, Though honestly the fanboy side of me believes ramu info more, but it's better to keep our expectations low

On 2013-07-15 15:32:16, sami92a wrote:


the Samsung Galaxy photo is more colourful than Sony HX50..

On 2013-07-15 15:32:16, sami92a wrote:


the Samsung Galaxy photo is more colourful than Sony HX50..

bla bla bla...
The last paragraph was actually enjoable really funny lines!

On 2013-07-15 20:44:35, katamari201 wrote:
Hey guys I'm done with this forum. Now that the sensor size has been more or less confirmed to be of a pathetic 1/2.3" size OR LESS, far smaller than the 808 Pureview or Lumia 1020, I don't see the point anymore. From all the leaked images, there was no way for a decent sized sensor to fit into that little top left corner with that small lens and be flush with the back. Sony fanboys here have been screaming about how great the camera is going to be, how it will wipe the floor with the Galaxy Camera, be comparable or exceed the 808 Pureview/Lumia 1020, and have a 1/1.6" size with interchangeable lenses and a whole bunch of baloney. Now you all are following the typical motions of cliche cognitive dissonance, trying to dig up info on how great a 1/2.3" sensor is on other cameras, making delusional claims of Sony making the sensor on Nokia's Pureview, whatever you can to twist it into a positive spin and pat yourself on the back to feel superior as a Sony fanboy. If The Lumia 1020 had been announced last week with only a 1/2.3", you would have shit all over it. But of course if Sony does it, there's nothing wrong. Sony is never wrong. And in fact, its the best thing in the world! I'm sure there will continue to be one-way bragging about how great a SMALLER sensor is, that it makes the phone slim, and that the images WILL BE AMAZING!

Unlike you all, I am not a delusional fanboy. I am only here in the hopes of a large sensor camera in a modern smartphone package. However, it seems Sony has failed me once again. The sensor may be larger than your typical 1/3" smartphone sensor, but if all of Sony's previous phones, especially the Xperia Z, is any indication, it will be saddled with a terrible lens and god awful software and processing that will make it even shittier than a 1/3" like that on the Galaxy S4. Sony cannot defy physics. Not only will the sensor be small, but the OIS will either be primitive or nonexistent. Most likely it doesn't even have OIS. It won't be remotely as good as even the Lumia 920 in low light. The Lumia 1020 has a big ass hump for a reason, for both the large sensor and the large apparatus for proper OIS. And don't give me the BS that low-light performance is not important. Over half of our time is spent indoors, and that means low and imperfect lighting. Not to mention shaky hands and blur.

So Honami is basically a refreshed Xperia Z with the next iterative processor and a slight thickness bump for a slightly better camera. It's no where near innovative or interesting anymore. It's just iterative, the next phone is Sony's six month flagship cycle, most likely saddled with the same terrible 5" washed out screen as the Xperia Z. At least the Xperia Z had an interesting new design. This is just a refresh.

And the worst thing about it is how late to the game it will be, AGAIN. The Lumia 1020 is coming out in 10 days. Honami won't even be announced until September, and then it won't even be available until late Novemeber or even December from what Sony Korea has said. What about US release? Probably next year. And you wanna talk about ridiculous pricing? The Xperia Z was already going for $650 upon release. I don't expect Honami to be cheaper. Hell, the Xperia Z actually just came out on T-mobile and it is pricing itself like a HTC One or Galaxy S4. Talk about laughable. The Lumia 1020 may be $700, but I'd pay the $50 premium for the far superior camera, non-crackable body, superior AMOLED screen, and a lag-free WP experience over Sony's laggy Android mutilation. And most important of all, its available and coming out NOW.

On 2013-07-15 20:44:35, katamari201 wrote:
Some random S**t

On 2013-07-15 21:03:34, KazuoJohnson wrote:
And take Silvio Berlusconi with you!