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SONY Xperia Rumors 2013 Edition |
king-james
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From: M.I.A.M.I
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nightwing, is it so hard to read what is written under the pic???  FYI Honami is cancelled... 
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-07-12 11:21 ] like.no.other |
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Rubenos
Joined: Jun 06, 2012
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James, good joke... |
vikeviki
Joined: Oct 16, 2012
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From: INDIA,bangalore
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Dear Mr NIghtwing,
I guess you are in kind of some trouble or your must wear new power glass ,I must say funny guy in this thread,Definitely this is not honami 
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razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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From: Mars
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LOL at the people being carried away by the 1020 hype, why are they mistaking glass elements as lens? 
now I wonder what features the G lens on Honami would have, if Sony is crazy enough to think ahead of the competition, they can develop 9 bladed aperture as well as Special Low Dispersion (SLD) glass elements in a small camera module that will fit on honami
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Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
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From: 東京
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On 2013-07-03 12:03:38, Shotokan81 wrote:
Also, I just realised that Honami will get a much faster optical system that Nokia 808:
- Pixel pitch: Honami 1.7 micron, 808: 1.4 micron, so Honami has +47% of Pixel surface, so half a stop is gained here.
- Apperture: Honami F2, 808: F2.4, so about half a stop is gained here as well.
So approximately, there is about one stop gain in Honami compared to 808!!
Did I get something wrong?
I can't wait to see this beast!
So I noted your post Ramu, and I am back with my questionable maths.
I wanted to update this post now that we have the confirmed specs of Nokia EOS. The pixel pitch is smaller than 808, but the aperture is a bit better. How does it compare to Honami rumored specs?
- Pixel pitch: Honami 1.7 micron, EOS: 1.2 micron, so Honami has twice the Pixel surface, so now a full stop is gained here!
- Apperture: Honami F2, EOS: F2.2, so now "only" a third of a stop is gained here.
So approximately, there is about one stop and a third of gain in Honami compared to EOS!!
The question is, how does the toshiba sensor manage noise in low light vs the sony sensor? But with less than half the light reaching the pixel, the fight seems difficult.
And before Razec mentions it  , outside sony tech to increase pixel density without noise, we think that BSI alone should reduce noise about 30% itself, Honami low light sensitivity should crush EOS, 3.5 times more sensitive if toshiba and sony remaining tech is equivalent...
Please feel free to correct me if wrong
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razec
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From: Mars
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after seeing night samples from an oversampled 5mp image by 1020, I'm pretty sure Honami's rumored HW specs at HHT mode should wipe the floor out of it by a full stop
BTW to refresh everyone's minds HHT is HandHeld Twighlight which is used by Cybershot H-series cameras, what it does is that the camera bursts 6 high ISO shots and microaligns them through BIONZ image processor to become a single low ISO image. since Noise comes out in random, the combined pictures can reproduce the lost details for each of the 6 images.
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Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
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From: 東京
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Sorry this is off topic but this is big, no huge, for the silicon minded.
Apparently Apple bought a fab!
This means they will create their cpus, gpus themselves from top to bottom, including the silicon!!!
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/07/12/apple-has-their-own-fab/
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northmonkey
Joined: Feb 09, 2009
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I wouldn't get too hyped up about the Honami either, Sony's phones haven't been much good in the Camera department for years.
There won't even be a Xenon Flash on the Honami and they will probably mess up the processing/compression again and it will end up being like Xperia S/T/Z. |
razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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From: Mars
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Since One Sony is codenamed Honami I was wondering if Sony have installed a secret feature on the device that can be unlocked by entering the codes up up down down left right left right X and O
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randomuser
Joined: Sep 13, 2011
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@northmoney
That's good, its good to keep expectations low. But there really is a big difference.
S/T/Z Camera were developed by  /Sony Mobile team and not by Sony Electronics' imaging division. |
Shotokan81
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
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From: 東京
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On 2013-07-12 15:46:10, northmonkey wrote:
I wouldn't get too hyped up about the Honami either, Sony's phones haven't been much good in the Camera department for years.
There won't even be a Xenon Flash on the Honami and they will probably mess up the processing/compression again and it will end up being like Xperia S/T/Z.
We will see, in one sony we trust, that should bring major changes to the issues you mention.
Besides, if we can have low light shots with shutter speed 3.5 times shorter than nokia eos, i do not need a flash.
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jianlin
Joined: Oct 17, 2012
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new render leak for honami...
look like updated z instead....not the best looking xperia though..
prefer zl wider earpiece design... |
randomuser
Joined: Sep 13, 2011
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^
It's a fake render. SP front with leaked i1 back. |
jianlin
Joined: Oct 17, 2012
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On 2013-07-12 16:04:40, randomuser wrote:
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It's a fake render. SP front with leaked i1 back.
hmm...i hope the final version is not leak in the net... |
Ricky D
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From: UK (living in Beijing)
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SP doesn't look like that at the front..
That front looks like the image I posted a few days back (which I didn't recognise). The closest thing to that at the front in Xperia C and Xperia ZL of which this is neither.
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2013-07-12 15:46 ] I have a dig bick
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