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Guarulhos
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Posted: 2012-11-20 18:42
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@Etaab...

Perfect Explanation... Absolutely Nothing To Add !

P.S: Can Screaming, Crying, Fighting, Deny... But the Absolute Truth Is That The 808 PureView PRO Is The Biggest Technological Revolution In The Mobile World In The Last 5 Years !
cu015170
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Posted: 2012-11-21 01:38
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I don't think that the 808 can beat a full frame 2012 DSLR in any conditions... that is simply not possible. It comes very close to 2010-2011 mid range DSLRs in certain conditions, and it comes somewhat close to 2012 mid-range.. and that ratio diminishes as you go further up the DSLR range.

Like I said.. it comes close enough, to where most people won't notice a difference in day to day photography.. I am one of them, and do consider my self picky when it comes to image quality.

Here is an example. I've put the original files and the resized 8Mpix images in a folder here: http://sdrv.ms/QtmqIC or here: https://skydrive.live.com/red[....]!1551&authkey=!AH2X8DK_LRMmMoU

You can download them by using the "view original" option or clicking on "download"

One of the photographs is taken with top of the line Nokia D800 .. its a full frame 36Mpix 2012 model DSLR... high end stuff. It costs around 2500-3000 dollars.

This is the same scene, same time, was also taken with a Nokia 808 PureView at full resolution. The 808 costs around $500, it is a proper smartphone... the while camera module with the lens on the 808 is probably smaller than the viewfinder on the Nikon.

So.. if you have no idea what you are doing, would it be smart for you to spend 3000 for a camera ? No. If you are a professional and you are willing to sped another 3-4k on lenses on top of the 3k you spent for the body... sure, the d800 is an amazing DSLR. But look closely at the pictures... is the difference worth 2500 dollars ? Not to me...

Like I said.. the image quality vs. size ratio with the 808 is insane.

Here are the resized photographs. Both were resized using the Lanczos algorithm, which is used by the 808 in real time during PureView mode. Its important to note that the image from the 808 was taken with "normal" jpeg quality setting, which sets the compression at 85% .. superfine would be much better @ 95%. I believe that the D800 shoots at 98% or 95% .. I am not sure.

Nikon D800


Nokia 808 PureView

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Posted: 2012-11-21 18:07
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That is an incredible shot!!!! ^^^^^
etaab
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Posted: 2012-11-22 10:02
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Ive got to admit i prefer the 808 shot between those two.

The rock in the middle is a little burnt out compared to the Nikon's effort however.
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Guarulhos
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Posted: 2012-11-23 18:39
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Damian Dinning Leaves Nokia !!!

http://www.gsmarena.com/damia[....]tive_november_30-news-5120.php

Nokia Is Increasingly Decadent And Bankrupt, That The Unic Department Finnish Giant Total Supremacy Before He Exercised His Competitors, Is Not Over Your Head Straight !

Given This Framework,

Even Until I a "Convinced Nokian" Lost Enthusiasm With Brand, For Your Cameras Were The Only Thing Keeping My Loyalty!

For This Lumia 1001 (Last Smartphone Nokia) In What Was the Front Dinning Conceived And Executed Every Project Is My Last Smartphone Brand !

In Summary, Here Lies a Nokian !!!
Guarulhos
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Posted: 2012-11-23 19:14
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Well, He Was The Only Thing I Liked About Nokia These Years !

With Him Gone, My History With Nokia Is Over !!!

May The Memories Live On !!!
etaab
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Posted: 2012-11-23 21:27
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Hes not dead you know, you sound like you're reading his obituary.

Anyway, Nokia is a big company im sure they've got plenty of other experts up their sleeves who're capable of innovating further with their imaging sector.

I personally dont think Dinning was solely responsible for all good that came from Nokia or to do with their cameras, but im sure he played a key role.
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Guarulhos
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Posted: 2012-11-23 21:34
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Cameraphones Nokia Without The Intellectual Contribution Of Dinning And His Team So is Meaningless and Ineffective As Apple Without IPhone !!!
etaab
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Posted: 2012-11-23 21:37
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Why is that then ?

Why is Dinning so.. integral ??
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Posted: 2012-11-23 21:43
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Never even heard of him. Was he from Finland??
Phone?? What phone??
etaab
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Posted: 2012-11-23 21:49
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You're one of the highest posters on Esato and you've not heard of Dinning ???

Hes British and has worked for Nokia for several years. Hes known as an imaging expert and worked for various companies like Minolta, Kodak and Nikon before joining Nokia about 10 years ago if i remember.
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Guarulhos
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Posted: 2012-11-23 22:07
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@Bonovox...

Since April 2004, Damian Dinning Served From Indirectly In Characteristics Of Photography And Video Gifts In Mobile Phones And Smartphones NOKIA... And With Decisive and Direct Participation In Development Of Cameras and Camcorders Gifts In N90, N93, N93i, N95, N82, 6220 Classic, N86 8MP, N8, 6700 Slide, N9, 808 PureView Pro, Lumia 920 PureView LITE And Lumia 1001 (Still In Development) !!!

He's A Genius !

P.S: If Nokia is Now the Largest Manufacturer Of Cameraphones World And Has Awarded Partnerships To CARL ZEISS, TOSHIBA, SHARP And PHILIPS Everything Must Him !
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Posted: 2012-11-23 22:27
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OK,so maybe Nokia cameras get worse now then?? Mind you so far all the new Lumia phones have had poor cameras @etaab over the years I have had more or other phones than Nokia. I don't tend to really care about who is running the show as long as they are running it well I take no notice of names
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Phone?? What phone??
Guarulhos
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Posted: 2012-11-24 03:22
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To Sadness Of "Nokians", Lovers Of Photography And Technology In General, Damian Dinning (Ex Nokia Image Guru), No More Will Follow In The Business Of Mobile Telephony, This Bright Professional From 2013 To Follow The Jaguar Land Rover !

Check Out Integrated In The News:

http://pureviewclub.com/2012/7882

P.S: Good Luck Damian !!!
cu015170
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Posted: 2012-11-24 05:02
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That is sad news.. I have huge respect for the guy. Good luck to him!


On 2012-11-22 10:02:12, etaab wrote:
Ive got to admit i prefer the 808 shot between those two.

The rock in the middle is a little burnt out compared to the Nikon's effort however.


The 808 suffers from weak dynamic range at times, and also what they call highlight clipping, which I still don't quite understand how its different from DR.

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