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DACHA
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On 2012-01-10 01:53:45, tranced wrote:
Xperia ion is also PlayStation™ Certified, guaranteeing a high quality smartphone gaming experience.
Nice!
Indeed, that is nice but I am worried about the battery life with the LTE module. Most of the LTE phones have very poor battery life. |
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randomuser
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What's with some guys here pretending to ignore the fact that this phone as well as Xperia S is actually a 100%  device only rebranded SONY at the last moment and blaming SONY for some things ?  |
Big_D
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Just to get some facts straight:
1) Xperia Ion and the Xperia S are 2 different phones?
- Ion is 4.6", S is 4.3".
- Ion is thicker than S.
- Ion is 4G LTE, S is unknown. nowhere did it says S is 4G.
- the buttons, Ion have 4, S have 3 and a clear bar underneath them.
- Memory card slot: Ion says microSD, up to 32GB, which means it's removable, S says 32GB eMMC, is that removable? I need confirmation.
2) Sony says the Ion will be available in the US for AT&T exclusively. But I always buy my phone unlocked anyway. If I buy the 4G LTE Xperia Ion, will I get to use the 4G speed on my T-Mobile USA network, which is 4G?
3) Is the battery removable? rumors says that the Xperia S isn't.
I hope it uses the same battery as the Xperia x10 and Xperia PLAY, cuz I have BST-41 and hope to get the best out of them once I switch to a new phone.
[ This Message was edited by: Big_D on 2012-01-11 06:08 ]
T-mobile USA network.
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moogoo
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@ Big D
Ion and S basically have the same features except that:
-Ion is 4G/LTE and S is 3G
-Ion is larger than S
-Ion has 4 buttons (one dedicated search, probably due to AT&T requirements), and S has standard 3
-Ion has microSD slot (removable card) and S has onboard 32GB only.
To answer question #2 - there won't be an unlocked Ion (at least there has been no intent to have one as of yet) and it will be exclusive to AT&T in the US. This means even if you can get your hands on one and unlock it, you'll might not get 4G speeds on tmobile depending on the bands they use for their 4G and if i recall, tmobile doesn't run LTE at all... so, if you get it to work, signal would probably be spotty.
For #3 - both phones have embedded battery
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@Big D,
T-Mobile USA uses "4G" being HSPA ... they don't own LTE license do they? Either way the bands for HSPA on T-Mobile USA is different than AT&T's so you're better off getting the Xperia S.
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Arne Anka
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On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
1) Xperia Ion and the Xperia S are 2 different phones?
There are minor differences, yes.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
- Ion is 4.6", S is 4.3".
Yes.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
- Ion is thicker than S.
Yes, but not by much (10.8 mm vs 10.6). It is slighty taller and wider as well (133x68x10.8 vs 128x64x10.6).
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
- Ion is 4G LTE, S is unknown. nowhere did it says S is 4G.
S does not support LTE.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
- the buttons, Ion have 4, S have 3 and a clear bar underneath them.
It appears so. However on the Xperia S the soft touch buttons are located at the clear bar, not above. The clear bar also functions as notification LED if I have not misunderstood it.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
- Memory card slot: Ion says microSD, up to 32GB, which means it's removable, S says 32GB eMMC, is that removable? I need confirmation.
S : 32 GB non-removable eMMC and no microSD.
ION: 16 GB non-removable eMMC + microSD supporting sizes up to 32 GB.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
3) Is the battery removable? rumors says that the Xperia S isn't.
Neither one has removable battery.
On 2012-01-11 07:05:32, Big_D wrote:
I hope it uses the same battery as the Xperia x10 and Xperia PLAY, cuz I have BST-41 and hope to get the best out of them once I switch to a new phone.
Both use bigger batteries (S=1750 and ION=1900) and hence are not compatible with BST-41 anyway.
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On 2012-01-11 11:17:45, Arne Anka wrote:
Haven't noticed if ION has 4 soft touch buttons to be honest. What would be the 4:th button be used for ?
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I like the magnesium frame... very  ... things seem to be looking good for Sony...
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On 2012-01-11 11:24:19, xell wrote:
On 2012-01-11 11:17:45, Arne Anka wrote:
Haven't noticed if ION has 4 soft touch buttons to be honest. What would be the 4:th button be used for ?
Search.
I see. Changed my previous comment accordingly. |
Big_D
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On 2012-01-11 08:52:54, Prom1 wrote:
@Big D,
T-Mobile USA uses "4G" being HSPA ... they don't own LTE license do they? Either way the bands for HSPA on T-Mobile USA is different than AT&T's so you're better off getting the Xperia S.
despite the LTE, would the Ion 4G be used when on the T-mobile USA network, or revert back to 3G?
btw, what is the T-Mobile USA network 4G bands?
T-mobile USA network.
Xperia x10i unlocked + 32GB / Xperia Neo
Xperia TX LT29i
Xperia Z C6606
Xperia L C2104
Xperia M Dual C2004
Currently using Xperia Z1s C6916 (T-Mobile USA)
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DACHA
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On 2012-01-11 16:22:07, Big_D wrote:
On 2012-01-11 08:52:54, Prom1 wrote:
@Big D,
T-Mobile USA uses "4G" being HSPA ... they don't own LTE license do they? Either way the bands for HSPA on T-Mobile USA is different than AT&T's so you're better off getting the Xperia S.
despite the LTE, would the Ion 4G be used when on the T-mobile USA network, or revert back to 3G?
btw, what is the T-Mobile USA network 4G bands?
The T-Mobile 3G/4G bands in the US are 1700/1900MHz. T-Mobile uses HSDP+. They do not have LTE 4G. |
DACHA
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Because the Ion will be AT&T exclusive there is no way to de-brand it to get rid of all the useless AT&T crap on the phone. Not just that but AT&T take to much time to update the software on the phones.
When I got my X10 it was very simple to de-brand it because it was a global phone.
The only option to get rid of the AT&T crap would be to flash an XDA rom or CyanogenMod and to lose most of the Sony customization.
Dose anyone else know if there are any other option? |
DACHA
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Some very interesting details regarding the ION.
http://developer.sonyericsson[....]ria-smartphone-supporting-lte/
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randomuser
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PhoneArena sample photos and videos from the Xperia Ion camera, also a comparison with a Panasonic point and shoot. They and the readers seem mighty impressed with the camera performance
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]on-12MP-camera-samples_id25777 |
moogoo
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looks pretty good to me... i'm still going with the S though. they should have same camera quality though..
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