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Posted: 2012-01-27 04:04
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On 2012-01-26 21:12:30, DACHA wrote:

On 2012-01-26 16:48:07, Karun wrote:
The MPQ8064 doesn't have a cellular baseband
[ This Message was edited by: Karun on 2012-01-26 16:08 ]



Qualcomm's CES keynote took place this afternoon and the company used the opportunity to take the wraps of its new Snapdragon S4 MPQ8064 processor, a quad-core solution aimed at smart TVs and set-top boxes.

This could indicate that it will not be used for phones at all or it will take a while until it is available for mobile phones.
[ This Message was edited by: DACHA on 2012-01-26 20:13 ]



Smartphones with MPQ8064 will be announced soon. Its not just for TVs and set top boxes but also tablets and smartphones.
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Posted: 2012-01-27 07:03
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Xperia S to come with anti-stain shell and fast charge capability

http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]ll-and-fast-charge-capability/

Hope this should add to differentiate SONY from other brands.
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Posted: 2012-01-27 07:03
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If any company went to a chipset that does not support cellular, they can support it by another chipset... Tegra2 smartphones/tablet as an example

yes expensive and bulkier option than a single chip solution... but it will take a while till you see a single chip with both Quadcore and cellular in it... and + it WILL be 28nm...

All chipset makers decided to go for 28nm for Quads even for non-cellular solutions, except NVIDIA with it's Tegra3, might be the fifth Core + Advanced power management... Tegra 3 is not a 28nm chipset, but a 40nm one.. thats why you see NVIDIA very advanced in timing compared to other manufacturers, as all are waiting for 28nm including Samsung... and if Samsung will make GS3 a quad, then we will have to wait longer unless Samsung is hiding something special.. I didn't saw any roadmap for Samsung chipsets...

I don't know about Samsung roadmap, but all others will have Quad/Cellular 28nm chipset very late, some of them already in 2013 or even late 2013... I guess it might be the fact that it will be a huge chip so they must have mature 28nm process before they go for it...
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Posted: 2012-01-27 07:09
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More info regarding the fast charge...

from a commenter (the_black_dragon) in Xperia blog

i'm also in contact with a developer who uses an prototype unit and to be exactly about charging times:

in the beginning the phone is charged with an immense current of 2,6 Ampere!
this is done until the battery is at 80% charge after about 30 minutes... after that the charging rate gets lower and lower until the battery is fully charged...
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Posted: 2012-01-27 16:05
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Marketingwise, QuadCore is definitely an advantage. Not so sure about performance though, from what I understood a dualcore processor on A15 base is at least as performant as a Quadcore using A9 cores due to the fact that A9 is not optimized for quadcore operation. Can only repeat myself though: I generally have no idea about processor architecture etc. (and therefore I'd fall for the marketing thing too )
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Japan's Sony to acquire sole control of mobile phone company Sony Ericsson which is jointly owned by Sony and Ericsson (approved Jan. 26)

Now officially, there is no more SonyEricsson .
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Posted: 2012-01-27 18:19
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On 2012-01-27 08:02:33, aurelius wrote:

On 2012-01-27 07:03:51, Xajel wrote:
If any company went to a chipset that does not support cellular, they can support it by another chipset... Tegra2 smartphones/tablet as an example

yes expensive and bulkier option than a single chip solution... but it will take a while till you see a single chip with both Quadcore and cellular in it... and + it WILL be 28nm...

All chipset makers decided to go for 28nm for Quads even for non-cellular solutions, except NVIDIA with it's Tegra3, might be the fifth Core + Advanced power management... Tegra 3 is not a 28nm chipset, but a 40nm one.. thats why you see NVIDIA very advanced in timing compared to other manufacturers, as all are waiting for 28nm including Samsung... and if Samsung will make GS3 a quad, then we will have to wait longer unless Samsung is hiding something special.. I didn't saw any roadmap for Samsung chipsets...

I don't know about Samsung roadmap, but all others will have Quad/Cellular 28nm chipset very late, some of them already in 2013 or even late 2013... I guess it might be the fact that it will be a huge chip so they must have mature 28nm process before they go for it...



Exactly, that's why we see Tegra3 in many Tablets, due to the bigger batteries and so on. If Samsung releases a phone on Tegra3, we know that most likely will LG, but they suck ey? it will only be for those who like specs/benchmarks. Everyone praised Tegra2 and it sucked BIG TIME! I can't recall a really good Tegra2 phone. There were so many hickups but still people buy it!

BTW, have been playing around with an Arc S developer unit with full working Sony Ericsson ICS, felt great! Not polished but nice to try out.
[ This Message was edited by: aurelius on 2012-01-27 07:03 ]



Based on this article the quad core exynos 4212 is nothing special.

http://www.tomshardware.com/n[....]-4212-cortex-a9-ARM,13562.html

It only has a 20% performance improvement and will not be available until late 2012 or early 2013.
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Posted: 2012-01-27 19:18
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On 2012-01-27 16:05:21, rog wrote:
Marketingwise, QuadCore is definitely an advantage. Not so sure about performance though, from what I understood a dualcore processor on A15 base is at least as performant as a Quadcore using A9 cores due to the fact that A9 is not optimized for quadcore operation. Can only repeat myself though: I generally have no idea about processor architecture etc. (and therefore I'd fall for the marketing thing too )



Hi Rog. Are you going to continue giving us information now that you are closing your site?
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Posted: 2012-01-27 20:44
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A dual-core cortex a15 at 2ghz/2.5ghz is better than a quad-core cortex a9 at 1.3ghz.Due to better architecture and 40% higher performance at the same clock speed.
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On 2012-01-27 20:44:50, nikos_se wrote:
A dual-core cortex a15 at 2ghz/2.5ghz is better than a quad-core cortex a9 at 1.3ghz.Due to better architecture and 40% higher performance at the same clock speed.


I totally agree. I can not remember the link for the page but if i find it i will post it.
It stated that a dual core A15 clocked at 800MHZ is faster than a dual core A9 clocked at 1.5GHZ.

http://www.fudzilla.com/proce[....]utperform-four-cortex-a9-cores
[ This Message was edited by: DACHA on 2012-01-27 21:03 ]
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Posted: 2012-01-28 04:04
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On 2012-01-27 19:18:04, rraz9228 wrote:

On 2012-01-27 16:05:21, rog wrote:
Marketingwise, QuadCore is definitely an advantage. Not so sure about performance though, from what I understood a dualcore processor on A15 base is at least as performant as a Quadcore using A9 cores due to the fact that A9 is not optimized for quadcore operation. Can only repeat myself though: I generally have no idea about processor architecture etc. (and therefore I'd fall for the marketing thing too )



Hi Rog. Are you going to continue giving us information now that you are closing your site?


Why is Rog closing his site
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Posted: 2012-01-28 04:33
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I think the problem for Sony, HTC, LG, Motorola etc is that Samsung controls so much of its own destiny since they produce their own processors, displays etc. The chip to watch out for maybe isn't the Tegra 3 but Samsung's 5250, based on ARM's A15 with the Mali T604 GPU, Samsung has stated it will be mass produced at 2Q2012 (2GHz using a 32nm process ). but it will go into tablets first. Here's a recent rumor:

http://androidandme.com/2012/[....]-tab-at-mobile-world-congress/

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Posted: 2012-01-28 08:03
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Is ICS supported quadcore already?
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On 2012-01-28 08:03:22, HxH wrote:
Is ICS supported quadcore already?



Yes, already shipping on the Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime.
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Posted: 2012-01-28 09:18
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ehh... I mean if it able to run fully utilize power of quad core, shipping with quad I don't think that would mean to be a native support.

I doubt if we will follow the same route as it gingerbread ran on dual-core again!
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