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mediar
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Posted: 2012-07-28 21:46
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On 2012-07-28 20:46:04, -XYZ wrote:
They probably chose the SoC before the shortages. Beyond that the snapdragon S4 has a dedicated LTE baseband built into the SoC for improved power consumption.NovaThor U8500 is great for mid-low range smartphones, bit cannot compete with the S4 or Tegra 3. The latter has awful battery life. Sammy will never offer the Exynos 4 Quad to a competitor. The NovaThor U9600 won't be out till Q1-2 2013.
TI OMAP 4 is worse than the snapdragon S3. OMAP 5 is again out early 2013.

Name me an alternative capable of matching the S4.


Well, Meizu MX 4-Core is Samsung competitor, but it uses the Exynos 4 Quad. And the battery time of Tegra 3 is not bad either.

Tegra 3 vs Exynos 4 Quad
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HTC One X and LG Optimus 4X HD vs Samsung Galaxy S III and Meizu MX 4-core
http://www.gsmarena.com/quad_core_shootout-review-790.php
The best mobile phone brand died with Sony Ericsson's death. Shame on you Sony for killing it! And, of course, for ruining the Xperia brand...
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moogoo
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Posted: 2012-07-28 22:00
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blah blah blah...

so much arguing. there should be a "sony mobile opinion/editorial" thread. this is rumors!! if you don't like sony anymore, then just don't post. obviously you aren't interested in the rumors.

please no more off topic in this thread!!
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dothan
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Posted: 2012-07-28 23:43
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On 2012-07-28 20:28:41, mediar wrote:

On 2012-07-28 20:10:06, -XYZ wrote:
Obviously you're oblivious to three Snapdragon S4 shortages. Which just so happens to be the best SoC on the mobile market.


But then again - they can use ST-Ericsson NovaThor processors more widely, or Nvidia Tegra or TI OMAP processors. Snapdragon are not the only one out there.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2012-07-28 19:32 ]



Normal development cycle for mobile phone is between 12 and 18 months. Months, not days or weeks. So if you decide witch platform to use you cannot change it overnight even if you wish so.

Also is quite more easy to work with couple of platforms (3-4) otherwise you have to have too many resources and this is something that Sony Mobile cannot afford right now (SW updates) - (they have 6 platforms right now). Not to mention that there is nothing pure Sony in Sony Mobile, except some managers. Teams are the same, R&D is the same, software teams are the same and the phones are the same all coming from the SE past. We can see some real Sony phones earliest at Q1'13.

And if we come back to rumors I cannot say that double Krait (MSM8960) is something old or not competitive enough, even if compared to SGS3.
And last but not least if I have to choose not Sony phone and will go for HTC One X not for SGS3.
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Posted: 2012-07-28 23:54
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I'm not a fan of any company or product. I buy what I like. Keep it simple.

I would really not buy Samsung or iPhone because their UI and Phone Design sucks. These days, features are all the same besides Camera quality in all the smartphones. But I have always loved Sony's designs.

Talk about what you like, there is no point discussing what you don't like. If you don't like, you simply buy what you like and move on.

And this is getting off topic so I would request everyone, let's talk about some rumours and mean smartphones coming our way. August end is going to be really exciting cause we finally going to get GX international and I'm very excited about the S4 chip. I am lured with Xperia S looks but I'm also lured with the S4 chip in GX, so let the August end come and see what we got, till then let the rumours kick in.

And what fireworks are we waiting for? It's about now. Xperia S is a beautiful phone just like Arc S. they both are so different and yet look so beautiful.

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Posted: 2012-07-29 01:57
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wow, just skipped three pages of worthless arguments. Can any mods delete or move those posts, and while I'm at it, mod this thread? this was supposed to be a rumors thread, not an argument thread, sheesh.
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Posted: 2012-07-29 04:37
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I'm not sure if it's because it's in Japan or whatever...
but a $900USD+ price for the GX? seriously? that's INSANE!

i couldn't afford that, nor would my love for Sony or need for a new phone let me spend it even if i had the money...

I sure hope the international version is a lot cheaper and doesn't lack any features of the japanese version.
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Posted: 2012-07-29 05:21
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Tech is typically more expensive in Japan when you covert directly.
Same with UK.
E.g. PS Vita is $250 in the US
Its ~£229 in the UK or ~US$350 when converted directly.
In Japan the Vita is ~¥25000 which is ~US$320.

All examples are at launch btw.
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Posted: 2012-07-29 05:38
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Hopefully someone could leak some pictures of Xperia J's front. also show some pictures of LT29's Xperia Logo whether it glows or not
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DACHA
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Posted: 2012-07-29 05:50
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On 2012-07-29 05:38:53, razec wrote:
Hopefully someone could leak some pictures of Xperia J's front. also show some pictures of LT29's Xperia Logo whether it glows or not



the images of the front leaked out before the pictures of the back were leaked.




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Posted: 2012-07-29 06:04
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^^ Ah I missed that it still has that touch sensitive buttons so it means this still is an old model produced alongside Xperia S and etc. are there any infos with the screen res? or RAM amount? it should have at least 1GB in order to use all ICS+ Sony UI features without slowing down
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Posted: 2012-07-29 06:37
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After looking at the images of mint in more detail i am pretty sure its going to a nice device... Have the feeling MR really try their best to make Sony's look bad. Same goes for the screen, he is a fan of over saturated amoleds which for me personally are painful to the eye.

I definately want to see some more images leaked and as with every Sony/SE design so far I am sure I will end up loving it Just hope it will be available soon as I really want to replace my Arc. Still praying (but not believing) for a metallic backover...
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Posted: 2012-07-29 07:13
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I do wonder since Sony is now running the show if the devices they design from the ground up will all have a similar heritage in appearance, or if they'll have a few different types of appearances they'll have like they do now? If info that was shared a while back ago on these various forums is to be believed, at least they should have fewer models out next year.
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Posted: 2012-07-29 11:04
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On 2012-07-29 06:04:50, razec wrote:
^^ Ah I missed that it still has that touch sensitive buttons so it means this still is an old model produced alongside Xperia S and etc. are there any infos with the screen res? or RAM amount? it should have at least 1GB in order to use all ICS+ Sony UI features without slowing down



Xperiablog has mentioned that Sony Xperia J would have 512MB RAM.
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Posted: 2012-07-29 12:15
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Xperia J

4 inch 854x480 screen
5mp camera with LED flash
512 MB RAM
1 ghz MSM7227A CPU
Android 4.0.4
8 GB ROM
NightBlade
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Posted: 2012-07-29 12:47
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On 2012-07-29 12:15:06, randomuser wrote:
Xperia J

4 inch 854x480 screen
5mp camera with LED flash
512 MB RAM
1 ghz MSM7227A CPU
Android 4.0.4
8 GB ROM


Ugh why is this necessary? We have the sola, P and U to cover those specs.
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