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aamwng
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Posted: 2011-10-03 12:36
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Adreno 220!!!???!!!?????!!!????

That means it won't be 28nm!!!???

I am going to go for sgs2 after all
argiriano
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Posted: 2011-10-03 12:51
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On 2011-10-03 12:36:03, aamwng wrote:
Adreno 220!!!???!!!?????!!!????

That means it won't be 28nm!!!???

I am going to go for sgs2 after all


it`s not that bad...


but WMC 2012 most probably will bring 28nm from competitors I guess, and quad-cores of course.
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feryshad
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Posted: 2011-10-03 12:56
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after all , single core Adreno 220?!!

this is a Sensation with 720p display . just like Desire HD and Arc

is a copy/paste from HTC after 6-12 months with some change like hdmi , bravia , exmor , etc

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nikos_se
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Posted: 2011-10-03 13:08
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I think that SE is becoming a lot predictable nowadays.I mean Nozomi has started leaking out,and i am sure that it wont come out before March.Samsung has already announced a 1.5ghz dual-core exynos at 32nm,while qualcomm is going at 28nm for 2012.However it seems like SE will be stuck with old processors,once again.!!!!And Bert Nordberg in his interview,said that they are really cautious,when it comes to new technologies???Well that's why they will NEVER become top android manufacturer,because they are hesitant to use cutting-edge technologies.Look at how well samsung is performing with the galaxy s2,because they werent afraid to take some risks....I am really disappointed at how Bert runs Sony Ericsson,in the past used to attract all the people that were after cutting-edge products,....but no more..there is simply no enthusiasm...SE really needs to get its mojo back!!!Maybe it's time for a new president...
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Posted: 2011-10-03 13:41
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Well I was hoping for ST ericsson at least. The problem now is that we are going to have 2011 all over again. SE will release nozomi and aoba (play2?), they will be highend in 2months or less. Then Samsung will release galaxy S3 with some new hardware and sell 20millons of those, then in summer, HTC will release a phone with krait. Nozomi is now mid-end. In exactly one year from now, we will sit in 2012 portfolio waiting for 2013; "the year of SE".
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Posted: 2011-10-03 15:12
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Don't want to be conroversial but I think Bert is doing a good job. He still needs to put some work in and make some decisions but has performed a miracle. I remember the last quarter of 2010 it was said they had till the following March to prove results and they're still standing aren't they?
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Jmblue
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Posted: 2011-10-03 16:01
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Well, SE must really step up their game. 1.5 ghz will be common by next year MWC, with 1.5 ghz already released by samsung and htc. 720p screen will also be common ( htc Vigor, Nexus Prime ). To really stand out, SE must either use qualcomms 28nm krait processores or offer AMAZING battery life to even make an impact. They must also get the phone out FAST. Otherwise it will be just like any other phone in the market.
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Posted: 2011-10-03 16:04
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Big let down that's mean no love of Krait and 28nm until late of 2012 if going to sell this model in March. Last year, the Arc arrived in late March after Desire HD for 6 months and this year another 7-9 months follow Sensation which is announced in April 2011 that will be almost a year. SEVERELY DISAPPOINTED! After let's HTC stole the light of Qualcomm and even worse with recent ST-Ericsson platform debut, a half of their own parent company!

Bert's ambitious would be never come true as top Android manufacturer (or Yes! maybe HTC outing for WebOS and Samsung with Tizen).

Oh damn! look what Samsung did these day! offer latest-cutting edge and most powerful platform to date. They deserved it!
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randomuser
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Posted: 2011-10-03 17:31
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OMG!!
I hope this is not true
This is going to be worse than Arc. 2012 flagship that is about as powerful as Samsung Galaxy s2 launched in Q2 2011 and same chipset as HTC EVO 3D and Sensation 4G that have been on sale since I believe August 2011.

If its true its real bad news for fans like me
nikos_se
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Posted: 2011-10-03 18:46
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After all,google encourages developers to offer cutting-edge technology on android.Look at microsoft for example.They have complete control over processor/gpu/ram,so that buyers wont care about the processor,but the screen,the camera and the design.Honestly,i could see sony ericsson performing well in that kind of enviroment.But,if they want to actually compete in the android market,they have to use the latest processors available,and not 9 months after there are actual android phones available with the same processor.Also,they have to categorize their portfolio better.It's cool that all the 2011 xperia lineup had 1ghz/512mb/adreno 205,however i do want my 500-600eur phone,to perform better than my 200eur phone.I think that there is a strong indication that will continue to be behind as fas as cpu/gpu/ram goes for 2012.

And dont forget that it is the smartphone business,we are talking about here.People that run to buy a 500-600eur phone ,are the same people,that spend hundreds of euros/dollars to upgrade their pc/laptop,every year.So sony ericsson has to offer them the latest tehcnology available,if they want to actually sell a phone for 500eur+.
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Posted: 2011-10-03 19:07
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Then make it at reasonable with mid-end hardware & price tag together, I might re-considered again cause if this news is correct and going to sell Nozomi as their flagship it would expensive as others using latest tech with no gap in software this time (HTC is king with Sense Experience for long time and Samsung TouchWiz is much better improved in S2 and if S3 change into Samsung style not Apple it will make real appeal to me someday).

I'm witness of Arc not really performed so well in market since it launch and have case cracked after 2 months and chrome peeled in 4 months, what I could say it after all, I already gave another chance after brought a major screw up SATIO with hefty price tag. The Arc is my potential handset upgrade as SATIO aged 2 years replacement later this year but I would love to see going to offer next after Arc and Adreno 220 with 45nm probably is that offer in world of 28nm competition ....... Oh damn well!

Only edge is pure design but if not come with proper tech and reasonable tag, it could mean nothing to me this time.

I'm sorry about overwhelm fuzzy today but I do really disappointed!
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Posted: 2011-10-03 21:36
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Incidentally, last year the first prototypes of Arc / Anzu had the 7230 chip from qualcomm like Desire Z, but was released on 8255, so it may well be that this is not final, but test hardware.
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Posted: 2011-10-03 22:08
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From Sony Ericsson Malaysia



http://www.facebook.com/photo[....]2.75573.105689852796016&type=1

From LiveViewLCF

The big announcement is tonight people. We'll be RT-ing the best guesses throughout the day. A LiveView is up for grabs for the winner!

http://twitter.com/#!/LiveViewLCF

waiting ....! >>
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back2you
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Posted: 2011-10-03 22:42
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No new LiveView @ today

Sony Ericsson Extras has teamed up with London College of Fashion and its students to create new, innovative, wearable designs for LiveView.

http://www.fashion.arts.ac.uk/sonyericssonliveview
[ This Message was edited by: back2you on 2011-10-03 21:44 ]
motvikt
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Posted: 2011-10-03 22:45
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On 2011-10-03 22:42:48, back2you wrote:
No new LiveView @ today

http://www.fashion.arts.ac.uk/sonyericssonliveview




Lamest thing ever. They are not even gonna design a new liveview, just armbands and stuff like that. Where is the new slim liveview?! What have they been working on the whole year?
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