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The All New Sony Ericsson Portfolio for 2011 |
heara
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well im not interested anyone of this model so im gonna take a break with SE, until they have good camera phone and xenon at least, gonna view other mobile phones by the moment |
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pmugghc
Joined: Jan 08, 2011
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There have been a lot of complaints here about the lack of SE dual-core. But I found the following tidbits yesterday and today:
1) Neither Android 2.2 nor 2.3 are optimized for dual core. It's my understanding that the OS kernel plus the Dalvik JVM will only run in the first CPU, regardless of how many processors you have. I guess an app can run in the other. But it really puts in question e.g. LG's 2x which comes with 2.2 and will be upgraded to 2.3. What's the point ? They need to upgrade to 2.4 to get the max benefits of dual core.
2) Look at this benchmark:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]-pulls-ahead-of-exynos-and-te/
The single core Nexus S is just 18% slower than the LG 2x! |
Indiandawg
Joined: Sep 18, 2004
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On 2011-02-16 06:10:32, pmugghc wrote:
There have been a lot of complaints here about the lack of SE dual-core. But I found the following tidbits yesterday and today:
1) Neither Android 2.2 nor 2.3 are optimized for dual core. It's my understanding that the OS kernel plus the Dalvik JVM will only run in the first CPU, regardless of how many processors you have. I guess an app can run in the other. But it really puts in question e.g. LG's 2x which comes with 2.2 and will be upgraded to 2.3. What's the point ? They need to upgrade to 2.4 to get the max benefits of dual core.
2) Look at this benchmark:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]-pulls-ahead-of-exynos-and-te/
The single core Nexus S is just 18% slower than the LG 2x!
I don't understand anything in this, while am so eager to know what's all this about.
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>500
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all this talk about pre order prices is nonense!
are you forgetting what they are, PRE ORDERS. Definitely the possibility of changing multiple times before final market price is confirmed
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avmaxfan
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
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On 2011-02-16 06:10:32, pmugghc wrote:
There have been a lot of complaints here about the lack of SE dual-core. But I found the following tidbits yesterday and today:
1) Neither Android 2.2 nor 2.3 are optimized for dual core. It's my understanding that the OS kernel plus the Dalvik JVM will only run in the first CPU, regardless of how many processors you have. I guess an app can run in the other. But it really puts in question e.g. LG's 2x which comes with 2.2 and will be upgraded to 2.3. What's the point ? They need to upgrade to 2.4 to get the max benefits of dual core.
2) Look at this benchmark:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]-pulls-ahead-of-exynos-and-te/
The single core Nexus S is just 18% slower than the LG 2x!
Let me show you guys a comparison between Tegra 2 /OMAP4 / Exynos and the MSM8255 processor that is used in Xperia Arc/NEo/Play/Pro
1. SunSpider Javascript Benchmark -
OMAP 4 - 20% faster
Exynos - 14% faster
Tegra 2 - 12% faster
2. Rightware Browsermark
OMAP 4 - 32% faster
Exynos - 29% faster
Tegra 2 - 33% faster
3. GL Benchmark 2.0 Egypt
OMAP 4 - 48% faster
Exynos - 1 % slower
Tegra 2 - 36% faster
4. GL Benchmark 2.0 Pro
OMAP 4 - 55% faster
Exynos - 49% faster
Tegra 2 - 51% faster
Mind you this is with pre release firmware in the dual core phones and all except Galaxy S II running Froyo. The difference will only increase with better software.
And the Single core phone I have taken for reference is HTC mytouch 4G which performs better than Arc/Neo/Pro/Play. So compared with the Xperia phones the difference will be greater.
@Indiandawg
Refer the above for the comparison.
And what pmugghc meant was the OS will not benefit greatly with dual core processors, and hence we do not see Android being significantly faster on the dual core devices that have come out so far. Its only applications and games that can utilize the additional core of the CPU and hence the better performance in benchmarks and under heavy multi tasking.
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se_dude
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How does the HTC Mytouch 4g perform better than the arc/neo? avmaxfan- You are full of shit. So get lost. |
avmaxfan
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On 2011-02-16 08:55:06, se_dude wrote:
How does the HTC Mytouch 4g perform better than the arc/neo? avmaxfan- You are full of shit. So get lost.
Loving a particular brand/device does not mean you ignore FACTS. my touch 4g has 768mb of RAM compared to 512 mb ram on Xperia phones and is the fastest single core Qualcomm device.
My touch 4g basically has the same hardware as Desire HD and Xperia arc does not perform as well as the DHD. Go check any website out there.
And part of the reason why Arc and company don't perform as well is because  software is not as well optimized as HTC's .
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se_dude
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Avmaxfan- From an insider to a philosopher and then to a tech expert. Do you even realise that the RAM doesnt matter? any ram free in your phone is unused ram. Have you touched the arc ever? I think you should take a break and out of this forum too.
Guys please ignore this nincompoop. Isnt a rumor thread anymore. Most people are busy bulshitting.And get this guy banned. |
MrCash
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@se_dude
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smclion102
Joined: Aug 12, 2010
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Dolby Digital Plus coming to Sony Ericsson phones 
Dolby Digital Plus, the impressive sound enhancement technology from Dolby, is set to make its way to LG, Samsung and Sony Ericsson handsets later this year.
These include 7:1 surround sound, 2:1 stereo and mono, switching seamlessly in real time if you need to unplug your TV and plug in your headphones, for example.
Soruce TECHRADAR
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badassmam
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My Desire has some sort of Dolby music chip and it does nothing, Winamp makes a bigger difference. I guess it will count for phones that have good external speakers perhaps. Is it a chip or software? |
Dups!
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@avmaxfan
What is the point of claiming that a proto is slow when it is still in its testing phase? Come on, you are being really silly now. Wait till the Arc or Play are released and then make an informed and valid deduction.
@all
Some of you know how much I bashed SE when they were screwing up. I bashed the X10 for being half-baked and lamented the fact that SE promised to use Android from version 2. I used to criticise them for the lack of smartphones back in 2007, for their copy and paste strategy and for their lack of being able to react to the markets in time.
They deserved every bit of my criticism. What happened ever since is they have moved forth positively. 2009 was the beginning which was really tough with the restructuring and concentrating on the smartphone market. Poor software implementation (old versions of Android) hampered their progress a bit but the devices were quite good and competitive.
This year they are clearly in a much better position, their new portfolio is quite good and up-to-date. Sure, it is not dual core equipped but the software optimization on the Arc is impressive for a proto, besides, it is not SE's fault that Qualcomm delayed its dual core processors. This bodes well for the rest of the year. Around Q3/Q4 we will see SE asserting itself and pushing the competition hard. They needed to sort everything within and they did so now they can really take the lead in innovation and bring us cutting-edge and technologically advanced devices. I see that happening in the second half of the year.
This whinging and whining like little kids doesn't help anyone but spoils this thread. Like it is often pointed out, if you don't like then don't buy- nobody is forcing you. If you feel SE are behind the competition then get the competition and stop calling people 'deluded and fanboys', after all, it's their prerogative whether they spend money on SE or any other manufacturer.
Criticism is good but it should be reasonable and not childish. I am looking forward to the rest of this year to see what SE will come up with, I haven't been this positive about SE in three and a half years.
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back2you
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http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]hit-new-xperia-handsets-first/
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goldenface
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Excellent! So it looks like the Arc that was doing the rounds featuring Android 2.4 might have been and intentional leak afterall.
So, the only benefits of 2.4 are it being able to run Apps optimised for dual core phones is that right? Is that the only benefit?
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motvikt
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/[....]y-to-9-4-inch-honeycomb-table/
Tablet from sony  |
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