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N8īs Major Camera Desing Flaw - Poor Flare Performance |
Vit
Joined: Nov 13, 2007
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Guys, Iīve just received my N8.
Do you know those pale N8 shots that appear from time to time over the net?
Iīve just figured out why.
ITīS NOT ABOUT THE SENSOR.
The bad guy here is that f**king brushed metal finishing around the camera. Under strong light sources, that element directs light into the sensor! God damn those designers!
This particular issue produces a HUGE decrease of quality!
If you approximate your hand to the camera, the scene becomes much better, but thatīs indeed an annoying thing to do!
Take a look at my examples. Both were taken before and after placing my finger nearby the camera:
Just look how bad it can become sometimes:
I am testing it throughly, but what I can say is that itīs not that good as I expected it to be.
EDIT: Here are some more samples of the issue. These shots required a whole hand over/behind the camera in order to get rid of this awful effect. Look @ the improvements when it comes both to colour and contrast. Thatīs unbelievable.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-11-06 17:28 ] Every Picture Tells a Story |
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Bonovox
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The last shot with the yellow bit down the mirrow  looks terrible. Are you sure that is what it is?? Are you sure your one is just not faulty??
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Vit
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On 2010-11-06 14:58:51, Bonovox wrote:
The last shot with the yellow bit down the mirrow looks terrible. Are you sure that is what it is?? Are you sure your one is just not faulty??
I am pretty sure itīs not faulty.
When I put my finger over it, the effect vanishes. Just like the other shot.
Here you can even see the tip of my finger getting into the frame:
Now with the finger over the camera:
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-11-06 14:10 ] Every Picture Tells a Story |
Del
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I haven't had this sort of issue with my N8, are you sure your one is not faulty ?
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Vit
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On 2010-11-06 16:02:44, Del wrote:
I haven't had this sort of issue with my N8, are you sure your one is not faulty ?
What kind of fault would it be?
Flare is a common issue with any lens. Some fare better, some fare worse. It doesnīt seem to be a fault.
The issue is not always present. Itīs there only in some angles, but its performance in this regard is worse than pretty much any other cameraphone Iīve owned.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-11-06 15:30 ] Every Picture Tells a Story |
Del
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On 2010-11-06 16:08:50, Vit wrote:
On 2010-11-06 16:02:44, Del wrote:
I haven't had this sort of issue with my N8, are you sure your one is not faulty ?
What kind of fault would it be?
Flare is a common issue with any lens. Some fare better, some fare worse. It doesnīt seem to be a fault.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-11-06 15:10 ]
I haven't got a clue what sort of fault it could be but not one of my shots have the yellow line down them and to be honest I haven't noticed any flare in my shots either, but then again I'm no photo expert I just tend to point and shoot.
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Vit
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On 2010-11-06 16:27:52, Del wrote:
On 2010-11-06 16:08:50, Vit wrote:
On 2010-11-06 16:02:44, Del wrote:
I haven't had this sort of issue with my N8, are you sure your one is not faulty ?
What kind of fault would it be?
Flare is a common issue with any lens. Some fare better, some fare worse. It doesnīt seem to be a fault.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-11-06 15:10 ]
I haven't got a clue what sort of fault it could be but not one of my shots have the yellow line down them and to be honest I haven't noticed any flare in my shots either, but then again I'm no photo expert I just tend to point and shoot.
Well, are you sure youīve tested it in a variety of shooting angles like I did?
The effect is present in some shooting angles, not all of them. Thatīs why I am pretty sure itīs not a HW fault.
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edwardob
Joined: Oct 20, 2009
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@vit
do you mean the little polished finished around the lens glass??
could be sorted with a little black model paint...although not ideal for a 400euro phone
but it's a solution |
Del
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On 2010-11-06 16:32:33, Vit wrote:
On 2010-11-06 16:27:52, Del wrote:
On 2010-11-06 16:08:50, Vit wrote:
On 2010-11-06 16:02:44, Del wrote:
I haven't had this sort of issue with my N8, are you sure your one is not faulty ?
What kind of fault would it be?
Flare is a common issue with any lens. Some fare better, some fare worse. It doesnīt seem to be a fault.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-11-06 15:10 ]
I haven't got a clue what sort of fault it could be but not one of my shots have the yellow line down them and to be honest I haven't noticed any flare in my shots either, but then again I'm no photo expert I just tend to point and shoot.
Well, are you sure youīve tested it in a variety of shooting angles like I did?
The effect is present in some shooting angles, not all of them. Thatīs why I am pretty sure itīs not a HW fault.
I've just just looked through all the shots I have taken with my N8 and there is no flare or yellow line ?
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Vit
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On 2010-11-06 16:43:44, edwardob wrote:
@vit
do you mean the little polished finished around the lens glass??
could be sorted with a little black model paint...although not ideal for a 400euro phone
but it's a solution
Yes, that finishing is the greatest villain of the whole story.
About your suggestion, itīs simply not worth the risk.
On 2010-11-06 16:45:06, Del wrote:
I've just just looked through all the shots I have taken with my N8 and there is no flare or yellow line ?
Good for you, then.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-11-06 16:00 ] Every Picture Tells a Story |
etaab
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Maybe im stupid but will someone explain to me how the phones paint job affects picture performance ? and then by sticking your finger in the shot improves the images ?
eh !?!
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Bonovox
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That's what I thought 
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jake20
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Hi Vit,
I will have to do some more testing, but I don't think I have had this problem either.. definitely nothing like that yellow line in the picture.
I have a green N8 also, so its kind of bright.
I will try to take some more shots to try and reproduce your issue, but I don't think i am having this problem.
But I know you know what you are talking about when it comes to taking pictures.. so I am not questioning what you are seeing.
Its possible I have just not taken a shot under the right lighting to notice this problem.
How is the best way i can re-produce this issue?
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etaab
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I think what Vit is getting at is the silver brushed metal around the casing that then turns into the camera glass.
Personally i see what hes getting at, but i dont think its responsible. My N8 had a few lens flare issues when shooting into the light but i know that wider angle lenses are more susceptable to such an effect.
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jake20
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Took this with Nokia Panorama app.. app is very basic, so no options really.. hope a better one comes along
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