On 2010-05-08 17:39:37, Luhccas-U1a wrote:
On 2010-05-08 16:27:23, Vit wrote:
Sorry, pal. I guess you haven´t been testing Nokia phones for a long time.
Sorry dude,i've sell a 5800,5530,n97 mini and N97 before gets the Satio...
And i work since march on Tim Brasil representing Nokia phones on corporate sector.
Apart from the camera, even a mid range Nokia 5800 with latest firmware feels much better than the Satio in all aspects. Tons of apps to play with (strangely enough, much more than Satio´s offering, despite the fact that they are both S60v5), FREE Ovi Maps worldwide voice guided navigation, Kinetic Scrolling, 1 year of music downloads included...
I guess now you haven't been testing Satio lately... Who told you we can't install OVI maps?And who need it when we have Sygic,Ndrive,Garmin,Google maps?I think you like the brand and just this...
And we have problems only with polarbit games who don't have an proper API to other brands.
Free 1 year of music?
I "have" (and all person with internet) this since 1999
!What's the point here?
You said something about Nokia´s support being worse than SE´s in Brazil. Go check your sources better before posting such a biased view again. SE is the Brazilian´s champion of complaints among all local cell phone vendors within PROCON.
Look with your own eyes...
#1 - Nokia
#2 - Motorola
#3 - Samsung
#4 -
Who sells more phones here?Who always search a way to put the guilt on user?
Why all problems with Nokia phones are related to oxidation and BAD USE FROM OWNER?WTFH of service center is this?
Can you ask them where's the oxidation on my mother's 5610?I'm technician since 2004 and faulty slider flat cable isn't oxidation... I've fixed the phone with my own hands,Nokia service center even tried...
And this carelessness we can attribute to 5530 and it's loose battery,6710 and the units with problem on card reader(a lot to be exactly),
5800xm and display/loudspeaker problems,N97(all the phone is a fault),etc,etc,etc...
Nokia's service center will always find a way to put the guilt on user.And this happen with all big brand here in Brazil...
The question here is proportion.
More sales,more problems.
I´ve had a Satio and I could not resist selling it. The camera suffers from a lot of compression, severe highlight clipping, lack of contrast and some intense corner softness through the lens. Still better than the C905 when it comes to color rep, but worse than a mid range C901, which apparently has a camera module made by Samsung.
Read more about C901 camera module...
Talking about that, now I own both a Nokia XM 5800 a Samsung Pixon12.
The Samsung performs much better than the Satio in still picture performance, delivering better results in every aspect. Better flare performance, better low contrast performance, more detailed overall pics, Manual ISO, including ISO 50, Manual Contrast, Saturation, Sharpness... Pretty effective Program Modes. I can provide tons of comparison pics to prove that if you please.
We don't need a "brazilian Sassho" dude
Don't waste your time because me and 80% of Satio owners bought the phone due it's features... The camera is a "plus" in the package.
The new Nokia shows a lot of potential. I Hope Nokia won´t screw it all up this time. I´ve read some comments that the man in charge of its development has made in the dpreview and they seem to be developing it in a mature way, walking a bit away from previous approaches and trying to provide more realistic results rather than punchy ones.
Well... What can i say about 5800 potential?It have potential to play music,watch videos,use 2 or 3 apps at the same time(lagging),play simple games,play with CFW and lot of other things from "Nokia Wonderland"... I always want more.
5800 is nothing against Satio.
And all S60V5 from Nokia too...
Let's see what N8 can do for you and nokia lovers.
Cheers!