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Nokia's Masterplan for 2010 |
carkitter
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On 2009-12-03 13:39:06, Boinng wrote:
Good luck to them. They'll need it!
On 2009-12-03 14:09:03, Boinng wrote:
I don't "hate" on anybody, but I've never been a fan of Nokia's style. One of the things I once loved about SE (and E before that) is they used to leave Nokia for dust on technology grounds, even though they were never as popular. These days it's the other way around if anything, but Nokia's design cues and poor interfaces still put me right off.
Totally agree with both these statements. 
Nokia won't be able to get S60 owners to behave like iPhone owners IMO, they will have to sway iPhone owners away from their devices and they have little to attract them with ATM. 7 million smartphone buyers per quarter is a market worth chasing. Few of the current S60 buyers will change their habits so Nokia will always be disappointed unless they attract the app buying market.
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imran_soorya
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@tangway.
E72 cannot replace e90. I need a 4" or bigger screen to view office documents and surfing plus a full fledged qwerty keyboard hence i cannot settle for anything less than e90 |
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gonna keep my omnia hd for another year or two. there's nothing available that i'm interested in.. |
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LOL! Funny i said i want a 5800xm type device as i got the 5800xm on Monday,im so happy with it  ,and NOW i can sit back and delay my upgrade til a Symbian2 replacement of 5800xm/X6 is out.
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I've been an S60 fan on & off for a few years now; Symbian really.
The issue I've always had, previous to Symbian-Foundation, was a double edged sword.
Nokia being the sharper side pretty much snuffed out its licensed competitors, allowing them to make devices, and they release something very similar to their products. What made it worse is Nokia's certificates for BetaLabs software (all free) only worked on Nokia's S60 devices.
LG, Samsung, and a few others that licensed S60 only really released a few handsets at any given 12mth period ~ Samsung releasing more S60 smartphones in the past 18mths then it ever had in its history of licensing S60 which has been close to 7yrs.
Unfortunately their efforts where only half-assed in design and product band support outside of North America and due to this many users hardly purchased them. I don't blame them because Nokia always played the 800lb gorilla with them and now the industry is changing and Nokia is getting what they deserved! Huge costs of acquiring Symbian ownership, and forming Symbian-Foundation, and reduced handset sales, horrible handset outlook for first 2 QTR's of 2010, and their biggest bet is now trying to earn patent sharing or $$$$ from Apple, Inc because they got kicked in the nads.
I'm still hoping Symbian-Foundation can seriously deliver (I have faith in Williams to do this), but its really going to be up to the handset manufacturers to see a greater opportunity to release devices using it and getting support from SDK's, app-store revenue & advertisement for developers to really consider this platform as a viable solution, then for providers to also consider this as well. Should Vodafone, Orange, Rogers, or any other provider pull their support you're going to see serious ripples in the Symbian food-chain crumble!
Symbian-Foundation is the core, the purpose, and the pillar for the success of Symbian ... they really need to step-up all timetables considerably (say 2-mths) and get Alpha builds to manufacturers to test and work with them, and FAST! To do this they really need more than the odd-310 employee staff.
Nokia right now is caught with their tail between their legs. Wasting so much resources and funds behind ONLY the flagship devices (N97 and recently N900) and also shooting themselves in the foot; stating only 1 Maemo device to be released in 2010 (after all that advertising? Stupid)! Also with Maemo 6 to be released mid-2010, a few questions come to mind: will N900 support it, and will the next device come with it??
With Symbian^2 still not announced by Nokia ... I wouldn't bet on them delivering before mid-summer 2010. The main issue with Nokia is still too much separation between all their departments and thus takes too long to ship a device after announcement; way too many delays.
N97 delivered on time but it was rushed!
E72 delayed by a full qtr (3mths)
X6 wow ... that thing took 6mths after initial shipment expectation.
Nokia needs to STOP rehashing brand-names and marketing the same device more than once for differing models.
N93i/N93i Internet Edition/N93i Golf Edition
N73/N73 Music Edition/N73 whatever edition
5580/5580 Internet Edition. What is the point of calling a smartphone a smartphone, then rebadging it as an "Internet Edition"?! What the HELL is a smartphone that does NOT have internet?!
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Bonovox
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Its good that we shall finally see some s40 touch screen phones in the UK 
Phone?? What phone?? |
jj03
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well, nokia had better sort their shit out because along with se, samsung, lg, etc, motorola will be releasing several android devices..and whats the betting that they shove some serious horsepower in them.. |
Bonovox
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Yes and if they are too slow in releasing stuff or Nokia rush out their revamped operating systems they may just be buggy again.
Phone?? What phone?? |
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I am going to be looking at the N900 this weekend, I am still torn between this and the Nexus
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot. | |
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Posted: 2009-12-12 08:33
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