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Robis
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Posted: 2010-02-15 21:08
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and that's all, what will show SE? Sad....
badassmam
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Posted: 2010-02-15 23:30
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WP7 can multi task the main elements like music and web. Apps become shortcuts so you can switch between them. Overall, a stunning advancement on the previous OS. Expect the WP7 phone 2010/2011.

The announcement was actually good because they filled various gaps in important markets. While there was nothing revolutionary, its still a solid showing and with such phones; much more likely to succeed than fail.
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Posted: 2010-02-15 23:35
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On 2010-02-15 13:16:05, Phoner wrote:

On 2010-02-15 05:45:41, c96sthl wrote:

when you check out the press image for MS450...you will notice the audio jack look HUGE!

i wonder what else it have beside being a 3.5mm jack.


I guess this is why...


Looks like the return of the ol' quality high-end Cassette Players and Mini-Disc/Hi-MD Disc players (all portable) with remote control via a side port of the 3.5mm. Still think the existence of the X10 Mini is a bad mistake.


On 2010-02-15 17:25:32, doministry wrote:
But it also looks like a much more closed ecosystem like Apple.

Looks like you have to switch apps through homescreen so it's
like closing apps before going to another...

In this case it will be disaster to any user who don't gives a fcuk about Facebook
but wants to have a powerful platform.



you'll find out more about multiple app switching at MIX next month as Balmer said. Due to the early presentation and no product launch until Xmas 2010 season (which is late week October - December) its possible heaving coding with .Net, C#, and other new coding schema's are going to be used ... very Zune HD like which is a plus, the bad is no multitasking that we can see.

BONUS: IF Zune HD based in terms of hardware then most likely NVidia Tegra2 is used and that is a HUGE extensible platform (much better than the Qualcomm Snapdragon2) ... we're talking 8-core Cortex A9 ppl running at 1Ghz or more!! which includes SMP support ... Snapdragon2 has not been confirmed to be SMP support - and if you're not sure what that means ... take a look at what your PC of your choice is able to handle apps running simultaneously ... that'll give you a hint of what SMP gives you - of which OpenGL is a (vague extension of that).

badassmam, what you've explained is like apps running headless - very similar to what JSR271 is proposed to accomplish, nothing new I know, but very different. What we're after is quick app switching where apps processes are not reduced/paused/killed until next GUI (or Headed) launched to the user to complete/execute their intended tasks.
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Posted: 2010-02-15 23:41
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Being always on a budget, I always hope for lower end phone. So I can buy and SE market share hopefully improve. But then the X10 mini pro might be low enough.

I suppose there are still gaps to be filled but that's what the rest of the year is for.

And WP7Series(gotta use the official name ) integrating with XBox is the only problem. SE could live with the stock UI since it is good but XBox?
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Posted: 2010-02-16 02:22
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On 2010-02-15 17:25:32, doministry wrote:
But it also looks like a much more closed ecosystem like Apple.

Looks like you have to switch apps through homescreen so it's
like closing apps before going to another...

In this case it will be disaster to any user who don't gives a fcuk about Facebook
but wants to have a powerful platform.



Some more displeasing info for Doministry ...

Source

* Built on top of Zune HD Kernel
* Fixed Screen size
* Will show best results on OLED screens
* Hardware manufactures will develop the phone in accordance with the specs provided by
* Microsoft, otherwise the door is open for them
* A Zune HD like UI with a few phone-specific controls
* A Usual processor, not a speedy one
* Capacitive multi-touch screen
* Lacks background processing
* To use Apple like notification service
* Built on top of Silvelight and .NET (as we stated previously)
* No multi-tasking
* No access to system resource
* No Process threading
* Lacks visual voicemail
* Won’t run Windows Mobile 6.x apps
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doministry
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Posted: 2010-02-16 13:20
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Some more displeasing info for Doministry ...

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* Fixed Screen size
* Will show best results on OLED screens
* Hardware manufactures will develop the phone in accordance with the specs provided by
* Microsoft, otherwise the door is open for them
* A Zune HD like UI with a few phone-specific controls
* A Usual processor, not a speedy one
* Capacitive multi-touch screen
* Lacks background processing
* To use Apple like notification service
* Built on top of Silvelight and .NET (as we stated previously)
* No multi-tasking
* No access to system resource
* No Process threading
* Lacks visual voicemail
* Won’t run Windows Mobile 6.x apps




Actually this part is incomplete and not true in some cases.
Indeed probably WM 6.x apps will run on WM 7 with just UI enhancements.

As for "no multitasking" is also not true.
Regarding a processor, it's a joke since WM 7 has a very strong
hardware required for it to work.

So thanks I also stay connected to all WM related news
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Posted: 2010-02-16 14:34
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As for "no multitasking" is also not true.



..but it doesn't (multi-task), seen the videos? It just stays on the last view of the executed app/feature and there is no task switcher, unless they change that on the final guise..
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Posted: 2010-02-16 14:55
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On 2010-02-16 14:34:21, drinki wrote:
unless they change that on the final guise..


As they probably won't.
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c96sthl
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Posted: 2010-02-16 16:43
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with WM7 having xbox integration.... could this be product tht have playstation3 integration or access like Aino won't be /wm7? it might be just too much for a phone to be able to get so much....xbox and playstation3 sync...but now i am interested to see what Nintendo planned... all this smartphone / mid is getting powerful processor tht can put up fine graphics....their portable business seem at risk.
doministry
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Posted: 2010-02-16 18:06
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On 2010-02-16 14:34:21, drinki wrote:



As for "no multitasking" is also not true.



..but it doesn't (multi-task), seen the videos? It just stays on the last view of the executed app/feature and there is no task switcher, unless they change that on the final guise..


Video of the Alpha state of the software
planned for Dec 2010?

Give me a break.
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doministry
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Posted: 2010-02-16 18:13
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Backwards compatibility of WM 7 confirmed:

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13395
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Posted: 2010-02-16 20:12
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Posted: 2010-02-16 21:17
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SE isn't learning. While their new devices might seem ok, they are far from great.
And by the time they get out they'll be outdated.
Android 1.6 is outdated, Symbian series60 is lame, their UIQ version was much better.
Still using TFT screens, cams not really moving with the flow appart from HD cam.
Batterylife not going the right direction.

I gues i'll stick to my P1 and Paris for another year.
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Posted: 2010-02-16 22:37
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hey bart
good to see you still around

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BARCELONA, Spain--Vodafone CEO Vittorio Colao warns fellow telecom executives that Google--and other companies that dominate parts of the mobile ecosystem--could be getting too powerful and suggests regulators need to get involved.

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dothan
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Posted: 2010-02-17 10:12
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SE are learning. They don't need to have phones that are with the best possible features, they just need phones with good specs on right price levels in order to sell them and to generate profit. Yea, some of the fanboys and geeks maybe will be not so happy from the specs but they are only a small part of the market. Usually the normal users don't really care with is the version of the OS in their phones, they just want them to work as they want.
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