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Posted: 2009-11-13 18:33
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On 2009-11-13 18:12:38, sealover94 wrote:

On 2009-11-13 18:02:06, XPHCTOC wrote:

On 2009-11-13 17:37:53, Boinng wrote:
If you're not used to using a multi-touch phone on a daily basis, then it means nothing to you - or you imagine it's just about pinch-to-zoom and "fancy gestures" and can live without it.

If you do use multi-touch, you'll be frustrated by the X10, and probably already discounting it. It's that big a deal.


I have two multitouch computers pinch zooming is cool but that's not a groundbreaking feature. And I don't think that having this function on a phone is essential. Pinch zooming is a gadget... You can do exactly the same thing by double taping.


here it comes again....

I don't need radio... i use handsfree
i dont' need camera ... i use my slr
hell.. i don't need a phone ... there are phonebooths everywhere !!

jeez !!!


dont' need it doesn't mean x10 should not have it... multitouch screens is the future...16m colors is the future ... and the future is 2010...

that's why your computers have it !! for people want to use this new feature!!
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-11-13 17:15 ]



I was only talking of pinch zooming. Multitouch is essential for typing text on the screen in a very fast way. That's why I would like a quick upgrade to 2.0.
For me the principal improvement of 2.0 is multitouch typing (I repeat pinch zooming is an epiphenomenon)
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Posted: 2009-11-13 18:34
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On 2009-11-13 18:28:40, se_love wrote:

On 2009-11-13 18:12:38, sealover94 wrote:

On 2009-11-13 18:02:06, XPHCTOC wrote:

On 2009-11-13 17:37:53, Boinng wrote:
If you're not used to using a multi-touch phone on a daily basis, then it means nothing to you - or you imagine it's just about pinch-to-zoom and "fancy gestures" and can live without it.

If you do use multi-touch, you'll be frustrated by the X10, and probably already discounting it. It's that big a deal.


I have two multitouch computers pinch zooming is cool but that's not a groundbreaking feature. And I don't think that having this function on a phone is essential. Pinch zooming is a gadget... You can do exactly the same thing by double taping.



here it comes again....

I don't need radio... i use handsfree
i dont' need camera ... i use my slr
hell.. i don't need a phone ... there are phonebooths everywhere !!

jeez !!!


dont' need it doesn't mean x10 should not have it... multitouch screens is the future...16m colors is the future ... and the future is 2010...

that's why your computers have it !! for people want to use this new feature!!

If the future is over complicated bullshit like that then count me out. I can understand the complaint of the screen to an extent but come on multitouch is hardly needed. There is one reason why SE has stayed through the years and will continue to stay. The keep it simple and clean how an effing cellphone is supposed to be, gradually evolving the simple and clean into the modern simple and clean. You want your over confusing technological wizadry go to apple or Samsung or whatever and we'll be here happy with our simple and clean modern day wonders.


That is not true !! When p800 was out back in 2004 it was the "technological wizadry" epitome ... and SE was in 3rd position.... now 6th or 7th ?? help me out

p990 was "gradually evolving the simple and clean into the modern simple and clean" ???? You must be joking right?
(i speak as an owner of p990)
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Posted: 2009-11-13 18:48
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On 2009-11-13 18:28:40, se_love wrote:
If the future is over complicated bullshit like that then count me out. I can understand the complaint of the screen to an extent but come on multitouch is hardly needed. There is one reason why SE has stayed through the years and will continue to stay. The keep it simple and clean how an effing cellphone is supposed to be, gradually evolving the simple and clean into the modern simple and clean. You want your over confusing technological wizadry go to apple or Samsung or whatever and we'll be here happy with our simple and clean modern day wonders.


What an absolute crock.

As their abysmal performance over the last few years proves beyond doubt, there is no reason why SE have stayed "through the years" other than the patience of its two parent companies and some pretty deep pockets, and actually every possibility that they may not last much longer at all.

That aside, to pretend that SE products are "simple and clean" while painting multitouch as "confusing technological wizardry" is just staggeringly, mind-numbingly stupid. Look at Satio, look at the X1, SE's two most recent smartphones - are they "gradually evolved" or "simple and clean"? Like hell they are. Two fudges of the highest order, with UI's that are part SE, part legacy OS, with a double click here and a single click there, here a stylus, there a finger - defend the phones themselves all you like but neither of those UIs is evolved or simple.

Meanwhile, the multitouch you're ignorantly slagging off for the simple reason that SE doesn't have it is actually exactly what you're trying to ascribe to SE - a simple, clean, flowing method of interacting with a touchscreen device. Apple understand that, Android understand that, and because I haven't completely lost faith in them I'm sure that SE understand that too (they just can't do it yet). But you? You're too busy defending the indefensible to have even half a clue...
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Posted: 2009-11-13 19:06
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Yeah, Apple understood the importance of running more than one task at a time, right?

Oh wait...


Multi-touch for zooming is bullshit. Double tap works swell.
Multi-touch for gaming is bullshit. Get some proper buttons or get lost.
Multi-touch for typing fast, I can agree with.
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Posted: 2009-11-13 19:49
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Seriously, sealover, your such a lowlife.
Don't you see, we are sick and tired of your half empty glass ranting about the X10.
It might not be the P800 all over again, but beeing a SEMC device of late, it is a nice freaking change, and it brings alot to the table, wether it doesn't fullfill all your pathetic needs, we don't really care!!!
And don't bother sending me pm's again with threaths and bs, that's for little kids with no life!


Pretty much all the news from it's announcment, the X10 have actually improved it's specs.
Gyro, Video resolution, the amount of colours on the LCD
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Posted: 2009-11-13 21:09
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^ after poking and prodding SE, from consumers on their developers site.

mind you it isnt just seal, it was a team effort here. it was actually very easy to get the questions answered in the right forum. this phone is right on track as far as im concerned, im buying it, ive been waiting for a superior device and this is it, i cant wait for the reviews, the comparison b.w X10 and HD2! A1.6 v. WM6.5, and then another set b.w A2.0 v. WP7. this will be a good one. they are so close yet the choice of OS for me personally is android, it affords a cleaner overall os than wm yet retains the customizations that its famous for, and some others that are not iii.

Im proud of SE for at least understanding how to create chart topping phones. now the real test is how the follow it up! if it starts down the path of platform reuse for top teir devices instead of trickle down with the top being new and fresh then i dont know how much they can withstand from Samsung/HTC chomping away at smartphone sales. SE needs this, I cant wait to test one out.

the phone has met my expectations and of course there could be more, there always could but the services i want supported from the hardware, are. and the ones that arent can be enabled through software, so im not too worried ESPECIALLY seeing the difference b.w firmware. good to know dev units are logging everything, thats SOP for optimization, ill need to keep that in mind if it comes up again.

thanks for the links everyone!
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Posted: 2009-11-13 21:13
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEdbJ9bIyN8&feature=channel

video is gone now?
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Posted: 2009-11-13 21:17
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yea the picture review is gone, and the page with the video embed is gone as well, i am happy i saw it though!
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Posted: 2009-11-13 21:33
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I didn't know how patient could i be with some people here and their personal attacks... keep going guys... i bet noone of you make money on your own...

@my ninja|@anders260 which one was that video ??
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Posted: 2009-11-13 21:35
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@sealover94 the one from italy (hdblog.it)
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the video will be back soon ... hold for edit: why monday?

sorry about the quality.

if you want to see the video now search "yzarc" at dailymotion.
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Posted: 2009-11-13 21:49
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On 2009-11-13 21:13:57, anders260 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEdbJ9bIyN8&feature=channel

video is gone now?


NO! I started downloading it, but I stopped because I thought it's useless, when I can watch it online... The two blog posts at http://www.hdblog.it/ for X10 are gone too.

the video will be back soon


I hope so.
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From HDblog.it YouTube channel: Video Xperia X10 will be back on this Monday. Sorry
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Posted: 2009-11-13 22:01
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Seal, give it a break! First it was the compass, then the screen, now it's multi-touch... Tell me which phone meets your demands...

...and then go and buy it.

You're ruining the topic with your endless complaints, mate.
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Posted: 2009-11-13 22:20
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On 2009-11-13 19:06:59, synn wrote:
Multi-touch for typing fast, I can agree with.



Can you or Boinng please explain this in more detail. I do need fast typing and this would be my first phone without keyboard. I thought that capacitive screen is enough for fast typing why multitouch? Thanks.
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