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saltorio
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Posted: 2010-03-30 01:37
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Absolutely ridiculous. Sony should be ashamed. This is no flagship handset. Not in today's market.
Ricky D
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Posted: 2010-03-30 02:30
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I too find it difficult to believe that SE could make such a huge blunder as to not support whatever is coming next for android's version of MT in the X10 after putting so much weight on it's shoulders.


I for one would like to see what happens, but until then I'm going to be playing with my new baby...

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DrewVL
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Posted: 2010-03-30 02:45
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Nice phone:)
One thing is kinda odd that X10 only support 65k ?? is it bc of the 1.6? thought the hardware capable of supporting 16m of colors this is not Windows phone!
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Posted: 2010-03-30 02:50
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@Drew

this was one of the first discussions in this thread. 65K colors is a 1.6 limitation but the screen is 16m ready.
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emuneee
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Posted: 2010-03-30 02:59
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On 2010-03-30 01:00:20, >500 wrote:

On 2010-03-29 17:57:15, emuneee wrote:

On 2010-03-29 17:47:50, my ninja wrote:
mt isnt that big of a deal anyway. crying over something that isnt necessary for data consumption, its a frivolity. no real value added.


Multi-touch isn't a big deal...correct, but its not as minor as people are making it out to be. Multi-touch is bigger than pinch to zoom in the browser (ie. soft keyboard, third party apps, etc.)

Finally, consumers who won't have a chance to try an X10 out in the store will read and see that there is no multi-touch on this shiny $800 handset and completely eliminate it. We know, its not a dealbreaker, but for some regular consumers, it very well is.

The X10 is an $800 flagship handset battling other cheaper, similarly spec'd flagship handsets with better software. It needs to have multi-touch (or dual touch or whatever its called on Android) even if its just a bullet point.



where $800? I can purchase it for $635 delivered to my door, black or white...



It'll be around $800 by the time it reaches US shores. I won't quote European prices because you guys will be able to get it free or for a very very competitive price with a contract. Even still, its competition is in the same price range and class with similar/better specs and a lower price if you bought it outright. :kanyeshrug:

Your missing my point though....but who cares. The X10 isn't terrible without MT, just an oversight that shouldn't happen with a flagship product. Carry on.
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Posted: 2010-03-30 03:00
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On 2010-03-30 02:50:33, moogoo wrote:
@Drew

this was one of the first discussions in this thread. 65K colors is a 1.6 limitation but the screen is 16m ready.


It's 230 pages! yah i just like to read the last couples of pages, lazy me i know haha
back to the 65K colors issue..yes it is bc of 1.6 Android, well look like this is not my Droid phone cuz i dont want to wait for features added thru future update(s)
saltorio
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Posted: 2010-03-30 04:34
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On 2010-03-30 02:50:33, moogoo wrote:
@Drew

this was one of the first discussions in this thread. 65K colors is a 1.6 limitation but the screen is 16m ready.


Are we sure about that? Sony has very general specs on their website, so anything (everything) spec wise that can't be proven through using the phone is up in the air in my books. They cheaped out on the touchscreen sensor, it's very possible they cheaped out on the screen itself too.
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Posted: 2010-03-30 07:20
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I don't know what you guys are bickering all about. I tried the phone yesterday and it's simply fantastic. I couldn't find any usability issues. Screen's great, camera's great and the interface is fast and looks good.

You should give the phone a try first before judging so harshly.


PS. Tried the mini as well. It's wonderful!
[ This Message was edited by: NightBlade on 2010-05-06 22:57 ]
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Posted: 2010-03-30 07:49
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On 2010-03-30 04:34:52, saltorio wrote:
On 2010-03-30 02:50:33, moogoo wrote:
@Drew

this was one of the first discussions in this thread. 65K colors is a 1.6 limitation but the screen is 16m ready.


Are we sure about that? Sony has very general specs on their website, so anything (everything) spec wise that can't be proven through using the phone is up in the air in my books. They cheaped out on the touchscreen sensor, it's very possible they cheaped out on the screen itself too.


it has been confirmed. but as nightblade has just stated... who cares? go try it out. multi-touch or not, if you find yourself not being able to use it because you can't use two or more fingers, then the X10 is not for you. But otherwise, who cares? I've never been a fan of pinch zoom. I kinda like the implementation they have on the x10 mini. anyway... being in the US, chances are very, very slim to none that i will get to try it out before i get it. So, i'm buying the x10 based on reviews and impressions of those who have it in their hands now.

@emunee... you can get the X10i (black or white) for $715 shipped off ebay. and prices are dropping each week as more people start selling it and they lower their prices to compete.
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Bankai123
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Posted: 2010-03-30 07:59
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Since i don't need no stinkin MULTI-TOUCH i'll be buying my x10 tomorrow and i'll walk out of the store with a huge smile on my face. Since i previously owned a "Tmobile G1" aka "HTC Dream" and a Motorola Cliq aka "DEXT" i'll feel right at home because none of those phones ran "Android 2.nothing" and i felt confortable with both phones.

FELLOW ESATOERS, BEFORE BASHING THE PHONE PLEASE TRY IT, I KNOW MOST OF YOU HAVEN'T AND TRUST ME, IT'S AWESOME!!!
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Posted: 2010-03-30 08:43
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On 2010-03-30 07:59:20, Bankai123 wrote:
Since i don't need no stinkin MULTI-TOUCH i'll be buying my x10 tomorrow and i'll walk out of the store with a huge smile on my face. Since i previously owned a "Tmobile G1" aka "HTC Dream" and a Motorola Cliq aka "DEXT" i'll feel right at home because none of those phones ran "Android 2.nothing" and i felt confortable with both phones.

FELLOW ESATOERS, BEFORE BASHING THE PHONE PLEASE TRY IT, I KNOW MOST OF YOU HAVEN'T AND TRUST ME, IT'S AWESOME!!!



They can't try it or the very least buy it. Cause they're still stuck with their current phone on contract. Again, as long as you're happy with your purchase none of us here can argue with you. Peace.
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Posted: 2010-03-30 08:58
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if it gets Dual Touch, ie, pinch to zoom, will that please people?

Multi-touch is the use of more than 2 fingers, neither of which the Desire or Nexus one support afaik? They only have doul touch...

Id say at the very least we'd get dual touch... time will tell when we get that update!

US launch to come with 2.1?
http://androidandme.com/2010/[....]ve-android-2-1-for-u-s-launch/
obakesan
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Posted: 2010-03-30 12:19
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Hi,

Just thinking, about multi-touch vs dual touch. Isn't multi touch defined as the use of more than 1 finger? So, so called "dual touch" is actually multi-touch as you are using more than one finger. when you pinch and zoom would that not be multi-touch as you use two fingers to do the pinch. This would be in contrast to single touch, where you tap to zoom in and out?

Cheers,
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Posted: 2010-03-30 13:01
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On 2010-03-30 12:19:52, obakesan wrote:
Hi,

Just thinking, about multi-touch vs dual touch. Isn't multi touch defined as the use of more than 1 finger? So, so called "dual touch" is actually multi-touch as you are using more than one finger. when you pinch and zoom would that not be multi-touch as you use two fingers to do the pinch. This would be in contrast to single touch, where you tap to zoom in and out?

Cheers,



well, yes

But the Clear Pad 2000 only supports 'dual-touch' afaik (ie pinch to zoom) and Clear Pad 3000 allows the use of more than 2.

I understand what you are saying and is definately true, guess its just the way people are explaining the 2.... can be a little confusing...
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Posted: 2010-03-30 13:22
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On 2010-03-30 03:00:02, DrewVL wrote:

On 2010-03-30 02:50:33, moogoo wrote:
@Drew

this was one of the first discussions in this thread. 65K colors is a 1.6 limitation but the screen is 16m ready.


It's 230 pages! yah i just like to read the last couples of pages, lazy me i know haha
back to the 65K colors issue..yes it is bc of 1.6 Android, well look like this is not my Droid phone cuz i dont want to wait for features added thru future update(s)


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