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crabman
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Posted: 2010-03-28 05:01
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The N1 and desire use the clearpad 2000 touch sensor which supports dual touch but not multitouch. BTW this will be forum #3 I registered for because of this handset.... Figured I might as well contribute something after following this for so long.
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Posted: 2010-03-28 05:16
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On 2010-03-28 01:14:32, moogoo wrote:
hmm... i think you guys are missing the point. DUAL touch vs. MULTI-TOUCH. does Nexus One or Desire support multi-touch? (i.e., 3 or more simultaneous finger touch recognition). As Arne said, we should ask if the X10 supports at least dual-touch (i.e., recognizes one or two fingers touching simultaneously). If so, then it should be on par with other android offerings.

In reality though, how many of you are actually using more than 2 fingers to use your phone anyway? Multi-touch seems to be a waste, unless those of you out there are that much more dexterous than me.



Fair point. However, that distinction is splitting hairs in my opinion. I just want people to be aware of this before ponying up LARGE amounts of cash. Personally, I can get past the other flaws, but IF dual/multi touch is not at the very least implemented in hardware, there is no reason for me to get the X10.

The apparent deceit SE is engaging in is what really bothers me. Failing to clarify this issue before launch is really unfair to it's customers.
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Posted: 2010-03-28 07:18
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what's this about deceit? when did SE ever advertise or claim that the X10 was multi-touch or will be multi-touch? This was based on assumptions and rumor. And just like crabman said.. N1 and desire are only dual-touch. NOT multi-touch... so i guess google and HTC are deceivers too? hmmm...
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Posted: 2010-03-28 10:57
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On 2010-03-28 07:18:50, moogoo wrote:

what's this about deceit? when did SE ever advertise or claim that the X10 was multi-touch or will be multi-touch? This was based on assumptions and rumor. And just like crabman said.. N1 and desire are only dual-touch. NOT multi-touch... so i guess google and HTC are deceivers too? hmmm...




Multi-touch or not, dual-touch or not...as long as you're happy with your purchase, then who would want to argue.
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Posted: 2010-03-28 12:22
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@ Ricky_D
yes,you have the choice and you can even change that from the lock screen (don't have to go into settings etc)
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Posted: 2010-03-28 12:26
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cheers yianni
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Posted: 2010-03-28 12:43
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On 2010-03-27 23:38:44, Arne Anka wrote:

On 2010-03-27 22:36:57, yawdapaah wrote:
According to a comment, the X10 has no HW multitouch support. If this is true... Wow!


Same limitations seem to apply to all Androide devices including Nexus One and Desire. They all seem to support dual touch HW wise rather than MT. The question still unanswered is whether X10 supports dual touch HW wise.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2010-03-27 22:39 ]


Skogberg:
Regarding the discussion around dual/multi touch. I would definitely expect someone to tell me in that confirmation if it would be dual-touch. So expect it to be single touch only – sorry.
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Posted: 2010-03-28 13:05
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No >1-touch? Welp. Looks like I'm gonna go get the Nexus One then. So much for rabidly checking up on the X10. IMO, it's a classic case of Sony Ericsson scuttling their own product yet again. I've been pretty nuts about SE products but I'm also sick of them not being forthright about their specs and release dates and whatever.
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Posted: 2010-03-28 13:11
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On 2010-03-28 12:43:12, Osmano wrote:

On 2010-03-27 23:38:44, Arne Anka wrote:

On 2010-03-27 22:36:57, yawdapaah wrote:
According to a comment, the X10 has no HW multitouch support. If this is true... Wow!


Same limitations seem to apply to all Androide devices including Nexus One and Desire. They all seem to support dual touch HW wise rather than MT. The question still unanswered is whether X10 supports dual touch HW wise.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2010-03-27 22:39 ]


Skogberg:
Regarding the discussion around dual/multi touch. I would definitely expect someone to tell me in that confirmation if it would be dual-touch. So expect it to be single touch only – sorry.



does this apply to the current Android 1.6 only or also once it gets updated to 2.x?
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Posted: 2010-03-28 13:18
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it gets the 2.x as well.. it's not software it's the hardware that doesn't support it..
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Posted: 2010-03-28 13:23
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On 2010-03-28 13:18:08, Yianni wrote:
it gets the 2.x as well.. it's not software it's the hardware that doesn't support it..


how can you confirm this?
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Posted: 2010-03-28 13:23
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I think though the X10 is a good phone, it's being released a little too late with a few key features missing.

After seeing HTC EVO 4G, or even Desire for that matter, it is hard to decide to buy X10, even though I am a strong Sony Ericsson fan.
Yianni
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Posted: 2010-03-28 13:29
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i can't in fact..but if you take a look here you will understand the same i think: http://blogs.sonyericsson.com[....]arch-program-started/#comments


ah you already seen it sorry.. don't they mention it there somewhere? in fact the entire discussion is for hw i think cause no dual touch in 1.6 is already a fact


and here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653536
[ This Message was edited by: Yianni on 2010-03-28 12:48 ]
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Posted: 2010-03-28 14:20
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Hi everyone, I've been following this thread from the beginning & I've been anxious to get the X10a when I get back to Ontario Canada in May. While reading on Wiki regarding differences/limitations of the various Android SW revisions, I came accros a feature that alot of people are complaining that's missing. Voice Activated Dialing (VAD) & specifically Bluetooth Headset VAD. I've had this with all my SE smartphones including my current P990i. In Ontario, as of January 2010 it is illegal to use your phone while driving, thus making it a deal breaker for me to buy the X10 if it doesn't offer this basic feature. I've noticed that SE also didn't offer VAD in the Satio which I decided not to buy because of various shortfalls. Is the lack of VAD a S60/Android limitation or doesn't anyone at SE think it's a necessary feature anymore especially since all the new laws requiring totally hands free mobile phone use while driving. I can live with many features missing on X10 but I do need VAD!

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Posted: 2010-03-28 15:10
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I still can't believe that X10 hardware is not capable of multi touch... I really had a faith in SE... Multi touch is even available on G1!!! (not directly of course)
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