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anonymuser
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On 2009-11-25 13:56:15, synn wrote:
Do you think the general populace outside the forums give a flying duck about mixed messages?
They don't have to care about them to be confused or misled by them. If you're considering a Droid or "Milestone" purchase and you heard (from any of the many news services etc that faithfully reported it) that the X10 is only going to be an Android 1.6 device, then you might well decide to just buy the Droid now, and forget about waiting for the apparently outdated X10. If you're trying to say that actually (in spite of all the evidence to the contrary) the X10 is going to have 2.0 at or soon after launch, then SE's PR strategy has actually cast the phone in an unfairly negative light and probably lost them sales.
When the phone is launched; if (Fingers crossed) it has the latest version of the OS running on it, people would try it out in the showrooms and buy it if they like. That's just how it is.
You're describing the point where all the PR in the world becomes completely irrelevant anyway. The point of the PR in the first place is to get those people into the showrooms to see if they like it. If it hasn't done that, because it's not sold it well enough in advance or actually downplayed some of its features and attributes, then it's failed.
Once people are trying the phone out for themselves, then the best PR in the world isn't going to save a bad device (although the reverse isn't necessarily true).
Give up with your useless Satio argument, btw.
What argument?
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synn
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If you're considering a Droid or "Milestone" purchase and you heard (from any of the many news services etc that faithfully reported it) that the X10 is only going to be an Android 1.6 device
Go back about 10 pages, read up on the difference between Google experience devices and custom android builds and come back. My effort is wasted otherwise.
for the apparently outdated X10.
Faster processor, bigger screen, more memory, hugely better camera... exactly how outdated IS it?
You're describing the point where all the PR in the world becomes completely irrelevant anyway. The point of the PR in the first place is to get those people into the showrooms to see if they like it.
No, that's advertising. Different strategies, different priorities. SE would do it when the phone is ready to be shipped.
Jeez, does everything need to be spoonfed to you?
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On 2009-11-25 14:26:27, synn wrote:
Go back about 10 pages, read up on the difference between Google experience devices and custom android builds and come back. My effort is wasted otherwise.
Your effort is misguided, and yes - wasted. Nobody cares about the difference between Google experience devices and custom android builds, the question for the consumer is simply when (or indeed whether) the X10 will get updated, and why SE's PR machine has spent so much time and money expressly not reassuring any potential customers on that point.
We all understand why the Droid has 2.0 ahead of the X10 (or any other Android device). What's not absolutely clear is whether the X10 is actually getting 2.0 at all, or at least any time soon, despite the unusually prolonged and long-term PR campaign SE are trying to whip up about this phone (still destined for next year, let's not forget).
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With Google announcing turn-by-turn navigation for 1.6 and SE implementing the bluetooth stack, what exactly on the Droid is better than the X10(As of today)? Seriously...
You of all people, using a horribly crippled device all in the name of "User experience" should know better.
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My horribly crippled device has been well supported over the past year by regular updates and new features, including at least one very significant upgrade bringing in many of the horribly crippled new features of the latest model. I've always been running the most up to date version of my horribly crippled phone's OS, and been able to use my horribly crippled hardware to the full.
Apple have taught the industry (and many of its customers) a thing or two about how smartphone OS updates should be handled, horribly crippled or not.
Synn wrote:
what exactly on the Droid is better than the X10(As of today)?
The price sticker, indicating that you can actually buy it?
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lol, that's the best you could come up with? "You can buy the Droid"?
Perhaps then, you should wait till the X10 hits the market to compare its final spec with the Droid. You know, kinda lik how the rest of us with 3 digit IQ scores do.
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actually I don't mind if X10 is running Android 1.6.... and if later can be updated to 2.0 sure I'll be happy even though I don't know what 2.0 will bring.... as of now, looking at the current stage, X10 is near perfect.
But... one thing for sure, X10 doesn't need an update in order to be able to forward SMS. |
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Mizzle just confirmed that there will be an 2.0 update. He heard it from Mr Skogberg today! |
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On 2009-11-25 15:55:08, kingcool88 wrote:
Mizzle just confirmed that there will be an 2.0 update. He heard it from Mr Skogberg today!
...and Boinng's & sealover's cohabitated trollcastle in the air comes crashing down with a boom. 
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On 2009-11-25 15:45:33, synn wrote:
lol, that's the best you could come up with? "You can buy the Droid"?
You know that's not quite as funny as it sounds, don't you? If you look at all the really successful products on the market today, you'll find one of the main things they all have in common is that they're actually on the market. Until the X10 joins those ranks and actually earns SE a single penny, it's just so much dust in the air, ready to be blown away.
On 2009-11-25 15:57:00, synn wrote:
...and Boinng's & sealover's cohabitated trollcastle in the air comes crashing down with a boom.
[ This Message was edited by: synn on 2009-11-25 14:57 ]
Because Mizzle said something?! Don't think so. Sorry, this trollcastle will tumble when SE say something about this directly, not when yet more hearsay gets reported - and you know what, I'll be happy to see it fall, too. I'm as bored as anyone of SE failing, much as you wish it otherwise.
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Sure, because your allegations and conspiracy theories hold more weight than something from Rikard Skogberg and Michell Bak, right?
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What allegations or conspiracy theories?
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Osmano
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Guys....i'm bored...... |
synn
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On 2009-11-25 16:31:05, Osmano wrote:
Guys....i'm bored......
Much apologies and hope this is cure enough: http://se-blog.com/report-and[....]om-the-local-xperia-x10-event/
Honestly, the X10 IS one of the most desirable pieces of hardware right now. |
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On 2009-11-25 16:09:40, Boinng wrote:
Because Mizzle said something?! Don't think so. Sorry, this trollcastle will tumble when SE say something about this directly, not when yet more hearsay gets reported - and you know what, I'll be happy to see it fall, too. I'm as bored as anyone of SE failing, much as you wish it otherwise.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-11-25 15:15 ]
That's fine, I'm not forcing you to think otherwise. I'm just saying what he told me when I spoke with him earlier today at a local press conference.
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