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Struggling Sony Ericsson taps Nordberg as new head |
Dups!
Joined: Sep 24, 2006
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Wow! What a surprise?
So, Dick realized he was fighting a losing battle and called it quits.
This is another sign of the end of SE.
I, for one, would love to see Ericsson back but that's just a dream. Their rigidity cost them a good thing.
I don't see the new man helping this once brilliant company. I've already written SE off!
It's not what you do or even how you do it but in what state of mind you do it: Dups! 2009 |
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WhyBe
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From: Ohio, USA
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I kind of saw the end days of SE from all the profit loss reports and the fact that the X1 was such a great idea that just didn't get the support it needed from SE to succeed. A lot of the original specs disappeared with each revision of the white paper. This means they just didn't have the resources to deliver on their original design--so we got a scaled down X1. |
razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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I used to love  as well. that was around 2000 with their trademark glowing blue lights above the earpiece and their cool antenna. but if they broke up i might end up choosing Sony.
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2009-08-18 03:09 ] 10 years at Esato |
carkitter
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If they broke up, you'd be choosing between Nokia, HTC and Apple quite frankly because Ericsson and Sony would be ill-advised to throw good money after bad if they can't make the JV work.
I think the X1 suffered from being a WM phone and an expensive one at that. WM is the fourth most popular smartphone platform after Symbian, BB and Apple. WM is undergoing a slow painful death and Symbian is on the wane too largely because most S60 owners don't know that their phone has an OS in it. Maybe the Satio will change that, here's hoping...
SE need to find a whole new niche to sell to or create a new one fast. They should be taking a leaf out of General Motors book ATM about flattening their corporate structure, providing decisionmaking authority closer to where the customers are, and simplifying large product decisions down to a day. I've been following GM for months now on their iPhone App and I am impressed with the change of attitude they've taken on. I'd like to see SE follow their attitude (not their finances).
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nik64
Joined: Feb 11, 2007
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On 2009-08-17 13:39:00, Bonovox wrote:
SonyEricsson were great but now they are just average.
Below average, I would say.
Any change in SE management is better than the long lasting agony.
It is a shame that now Samsung is on the throne of the mobile handsets innovation king.
Three years ago anyone would say that is SE place.....
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jj03
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samsung have earned the position they are in now. .and so have SE. If se went under, i'd carry on buying symbian in whatever guise it continues in, rather than buy the vastly overpriced iphone, anything from htc because i dislike windows, and avoid android altogether. |
mode
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I'd say Miles Flynt is the root of all this trouble. When he was at the helm he introduced the "profitability over quality" concept which apparently saw the production of a flood of low to mid-segment SE clones in slightly different shells. I say we carry our pitch-forks and fiery torches and send him to hell  If they actually split, I'd stay with Ericsson because Sony will be stingy with their latest technologies. Ericsson was the first to introduce music and imaging on phones eventhough only as attachments at first with HPM-10 and MCA-10. I remember MCA-10 was a black and white camera mainly to capture images for their phones' wallpaper, very primitive but cool at the time 
[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2009-08-22 13:14 ] Ericsson EH97, GA628, GF768, A2618s, T29s Sony Ericsson T68i, S700i, P990i, Z558i, W902, W995, X10, Arc S
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Bonovox
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I thought the first ever mp3 phone was the Siemens SL55? I never knew Ericsson were the first.
Phone?? What phone?? |
jj03
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the 7650 could play mp3's..anyhow. . This fella. . Nordberg. . It ain't him outta naked gun is it? Lol. |
skblakee
Joined: May 07, 2007
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From: St.Kitts, West Indies
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 started going down around the time of the p990i and their movement away from what the customer wants. New management is what is needed to shake them up and remind them that they were innovators and not followers.
Earlier on I would have expected to be the first ones to introduce an omnia HD phone but today they have been relegated to following those concepts.
No longer can I buy a phone and feel as though I have something that everyone else wants.
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mode
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On 2009-08-22 19:01:00, Bonovox wrote:
I thought the first ever mp3 phone was the Siemens SL55? I never knew Ericsson were the first.
HPM-10 is (present tense because I still have one in good condition) compatible with phones as far back as T28, R320, R310 and A2618, definitely earlier than SL55. First built in MP3 capable phone perhaps, but first to capture people's imagination? I don't think so.
Ericsson EH97, GA628, GF768, A2618s, T29s Sony Ericsson T68i, S700i, P990i, Z558i, W902, W995, X10, Arc S
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HxH
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Actually I thought that un-expectation of IPhone popular stream in time of changing between Flint and Komiyama-san brought long roadmap down, and they learnt it slowly that faulty.
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razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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On 2009-08-22 14:07:24, mode wrote:
I'd say Miles Flynt is the root of all this trouble. When he was at the helm he introduced the "profitability over quality" concept which apparently saw the production of a flood of low to mid-segment SE clones in slightly different shells. I say we carry our pitch-forks and fiery torches and send him to hell If they actually split, I'd stay with Ericsson because Sony will be stingy with their latest technologies. Ericsson was the first to introduce music and imaging on phones eventhough only as attachments at first with HPM-10 and MCA-10. I remember MCA-10 was a black and white camera mainly to capture images for their phones' wallpaper, very primitive but cool at the time
[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2009-08-22 13:14 ]
I Agree, i hope you see my old posts where i constantly criticized this person for the ultimate defeat of SE during 2007 with the massive failure of all their 3 top-of-the-line series. the failure hits SE so hard that even Komiyama-san deemed that he can't save SE from the troubles even by releasing decent high end phones.
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dainnielle23
Joined: Aug 25, 2004
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I never liked the merger of sony w/ ericsson. I simply adore Ericsson in every angle, though there may be no argument that early Ericsson models lacked the features to deal w/ other manufacturers pound for pound. Nevertheless, I chose ericsson on the basis that it's products simply delivered the results I was looking for a mobile tool: reliability & perfomance.
Should the two decide to call it quits, then i sure hope that Ericsson finds it's resources to stand up and create the phones that I once liked. |
carkitter
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I don't see why they would... the mobile handset industry isn't the cash cow it once was. These days one needs to create the device that works with a successful platform or you lose bigtime.
RIM and Apple are both proprietary AND successful. Perhaps open-source is not the way to be financially successful no matter how many friends it wins you among users. 
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Posted: 2009-08-17 19:07
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