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Author K850i mismanaged heap memory, what do you guys think?
sitnet
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Posted: 2009-05-08 16:42
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Yesterday I got a 8GB SDHC MicroSD for my K850i. I uploaded some music and videos (no more than 1GB) and it worked fine (although the media centre was EXTREMELY slow). Then today everything started getting slow, the camera, games etc. One time when I shut down the camera the blue led's stayed on!

So obviously I thought it was the 8GB card but when I put back my original 512 M2 and it was still slow! Especially the media centre, it's horrible.

So then I started thinking and thinking, and ...... I then made my conclusion. All the guys on this forums that know a lot about firmware, hear me out:

I think that the only thing that makes the K850i so slow is that it's heap memory is very badly managed. I builds up, and builds up until there is no more the use, and the phone or restarts or gets so slow that you can not use it any more. And yes I know that the memory is dynamic, but if there is no more to add, there is physically no more.

Ok so now that you know what I think is wrong with the phone's firmware, you probably want to know what I suggest we do, right? Well I know that patching isn't yet available for the K850i(I think), but I think that a patch (.vkp) might be able to fix the problem.

What do you guys think?
lauris47
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Posted: 2009-05-08 17:07
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maeby but who will make this patch ?
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Posted: 2009-05-08 17:14
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I don't know :( I am going to try very hard to fins someone, when I do I will let you guys know. But do you know if VKP patching is possible for the k850 yet?

If it is please give me a link to anything concerning it.
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Posted: 2009-05-08 17:18
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Patching K850 at the moment....No.

Making a patch for phone to remanage the heap...Impossible. There are only a handfull patchmakers out there with the knowledge, but even they would struggle with the complexity of that task.
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Posted: 2009-05-08 17:26
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Ok cool, but I asked jockep at se-nse what he thinks (he can make and port patches). Maybe he can help me out.

But do you have any other theories as why my K850i got so slow suddenly?

P.S. Read my reply at SE-NSE
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Posted: 2009-05-08 17:44
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On 2009-05-08 17:26:28, sitnet wrote:
Ok cool, but I asked jockep at se-nse what he thinks (he can make and port patches). Maybe he can help me out.

Whats the point?
But do you have any other theories as why my K850i got so slow suddenly?

Yea, thats the way its always been!
P.S. Read my reply at SE-NSE

I have and you asked to continue here! Make your mind up man!
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Posted: 2009-05-08 17:51
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HAHA sorry boysie, I just said you should read the reply so that you know I want to continue here :)

The thinh is though, a few days ago I could barely see a difference between my k850i and a friends c902. And now it is very visible, so what do you think could have affected the speed so badly.

Oh and is there a application that I can use to monitor the memory usage of my phone and maybe dump the unused memory? I know opera mini mod can edit the memory values but I want a independent java application.

Thanx
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Posted: 2009-05-08 20:02
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I'm using a 4gb card on mine and i have put everything on the card images,themes,applications,games and there is nothing on the phone(34mb),my phone is as quick as my old k800.
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Posted: 2009-05-09 00:20
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On 2009-05-08 17:51:26, sitnet wrote:
Oh and is there a application that I can use to monitor the memory usage of my phone...

AutoHeap
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They work on my K800,may be will work on K850 also...
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sitnet
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Posted: 2009-05-09 10:44
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On 2009-05-08 20:02:15, Jenova wrote:
I'm using a 4gb card on mine and i have put everything on the card images,themes,applications,games and there is nothing on the phone(34mb),my phone is as quick as my old k800.



Hey Jenova, ok cool but what type of memory card is it (M2 or MicroSD) and do you maybe know what class the card is (2, 4 or 6), each class represents a different transfer speed?

Oh and what firmware do you have on?
sitnet
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Posted: 2009-05-09 10:53
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On 2009-05-09 00:20:58, Goldmen wrote:

On 2009-05-08 17:51:26, sitnet wrote:
Oh and is there a application that I can use to monitor the memory usage of my phone...

AutoHeap
Heapclearer
They work on my K800,may be will work on K850 also... :wink:
The interface is russian!



Thanx very much. Just a few questions:

If I minimize autoheap will it continuously clear the heap? Sorry but I don't understand Russian.

And in heap clearer what does the middle and left softkeys do?
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Posted: 2009-05-09 13:53
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On 2009-05-09 10:44:12, sitnet wrote:

On 2009-05-08 20:02:15, Jenova wrote:
I'm using a 4gb card on mine and i have put everything on the card images,themes,applications,games and there is nothing on the phone(34mb),my phone is as quick as my old k800.



Hey Jenova, ok cool but what type of memory card is it (M2 or MicroSD) and do you maybe know what class the card is (2, 4 or 6), each class represents a different transfer speed?

Oh and what firmware do you have on?

My card is a micro SDHC,don't know about the class and i'm running the latest fw R1FA035
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sitnet
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Posted: 2009-05-09 14:01
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@ Jenova

Ok thanx, that's exactly the same as me! I only have 8GB, yours is probably also class 4. Can I ask a favour?

Can you go to Http://www.jbenchmark.com on your phone and download Jbenchmark HD. Then run it and tell me what score it got. If you have the time I would be very grateful!!
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Posted: 2009-05-09 14:56
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Posted: 2009-05-09 17:08
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On 2009-05-09 14:56:32, Jenova wrote:
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Ok thanx! I will run mine again and post my score here now!
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