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Posted: 2008-12-02 12:12
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On 2008-12-02 12:00:08, redsaph wrote:
Nokia is getting desperate for "MOAR!!!"

Of course, they use Carl Zeiss Vario Tessar which is also used by Sony Cyber-Shot cameras, so when Nokia tries an 8 MP, Nokia will get sued by Sony... WIN!

#2: Nokia N97 has silver and black colors, like SE's first Xperia Win-Mo powered device, X1.

#3:In GSMArena, X1 is rated as the most rates and viewed, so Nokia wants to defeat this title.

#4: Nokia taunted Engadget that they didn't post about this phone -- exactly, it was leaked last month. =P

#5: They do have a 5MP camera which X1 doesn't have. But X1 has greater resolution which is WVGA 800x480 than N97's almost VGA 640x360. X1 is a true WIDESCREEN phone.

#6: Nokia is jealous of SE, Samsung and LG.

#7: I bet my C902 can defeat N97 when taking pictures..

#8: Nokia can't make their own cameras -- only until CIF.. Lol!

#9: HSDPA 3.6MBPS? Puh-leez. Xperia has that speed. Maybe even 7.2MBPS..

#10: And almost N97 is heaver than X1.

#11: N97 has a a 3.5inch screen like an iPhone.

-- What's next? N98, N99, then N100? How stewpeed.


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Posted: 2008-12-02 12:21
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On 2008-12-02 12:00:08, redsaph wrote:
Nokia is getting desperate for "MOAR!!!"

Of course, they use Carl Zeiss Vario Tessar which is also used by Sony Cyber-Shot cameras, so when Nokia tries an 8 MP, Nokia will get sued by Sony... WIN!

#2: Nokia N97 has silver and black colors, like SE's first Xperia Win-Mo powered device, X1.

#3:In GSMArena, X1 is rated as the most rates and viewed, so Nokia wants to defeat this title.

#4: Nokia taunted Engadget that they didn't post about this phone -- exactly, it was leaked last month. =P

#5: They do have a 5MP camera which X1 doesn't have. But X1 has greater resolution which is WVGA 800x480 than N97's almost VGA 640x360. X1 is a true WIDESCREEN phone.

#6: Nokia is jealous of SE, Samsung and LG.

#7: I bet my C902 can defeat N97 when taking pictures..

#8: Nokia can't make their own cameras -- only until CIF.. Lol!

#9: HSDPA 3.6MBPS? Puh-leez. Xperia has that speed. Maybe even 7.2MBPS..

#10: And almost N97 is heaver than X1.

#11: N97 has a a 3.5inch screen like an iPhone.

-- What's next? N98, N99, then N100? How stewpeed.


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[ This Message was edited by: redsaph on 2008-12-02 11:09 ]

funny one "stewpeed" i had no idea grade1s were now posting here.
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Posted: 2008-12-02 12:47
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On 2008-12-02 12:00:08, redsaph wrote:
Nokia is getting desperate for "MOAR!!!"

Of course, they use Carl Zeiss Vario Tessar which is also used by Sony Cyber-Shot cameras, so when Nokia tries an 8 MP, Nokia will get sued by Sony... WIN!

#2: Nokia N97 has silver and black colors, like SE's first Xperia Win-Mo powered device, X1.

#3:In GSMArena, X1 is rated as the most rates and viewed, so Nokia wants to defeat this title.

#4: Nokia taunted Engadget that they didn't post about this phone -- exactly, it was leaked last month. =P

#5: They do have a 5MP camera which X1 doesn't have. But X1 has greater resolution which is WVGA 800x480 than N97's almost VGA 640x360. X1 is a true WIDESCREEN phone.

#6: Nokia is jealous of SE, Samsung and LG.

#7: I bet my C902 can defeat N97 when taking pictures..

#8: Nokia can't make their own cameras -- only until CIF.. Lol!

#9: HSDPA 3.6MBPS? Puh-leez. Xperia has that speed. Maybe even 7.2MBPS..

#10: And almost N97 is heaver than X1.

#11: N97 has a a 3.5inch screen like an iPhone.

-- What's next? N98, N99, then N100? How stewpeed.


Are you plankgatan in disguise?

I think argument #6 holds the most weight cause i've just been on the official nokia site & there is a HUGE message (you can't miss it) that states.

We have released the N97 because we are jealous of SE, Samsung & LG.

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Posted: 2008-12-02 12:56
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I really don't think tis should have been labeled the n97 it just doesn't fit in with the previous range.

Looks more like a business / consumer device and they never work out well. Its either on or the other not both.

Mind you, i'm sure it'll sell like hot cakes to people who don't need it.
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Posted: 2008-12-02 13:16
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I was so sure that I would buy the 5800 but after this announcement I'm getting the N97 no matter what.
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Posted: 2008-12-02 13:34
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On 2008-12-02 13:16:02, Yakkaimono wrote:
I was so sure that I would buy the 5800 but after this announcement I'm getting the N97 no matter what.


You might want to wait till MWC 2009 and then make a decision
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Posted: 2008-12-02 13:38
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Assuming it has similar hardware as 5800,They are still using the freescale platform.
I can only think that integration between hardware and os is much tighter than ever before with S60 5th Edition.
and 48gigs!

Another important pointer is that,there is another device coming soon that will be focused on imaging.
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Posted: 2008-12-02 13:45
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Any live pics?
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On 2008-12-02 11:54:02, jcwhite_uk wrote:
I like the way it says ships H1 2009. Thats anywhere between 1st Jan and 31st June. Couldnt they have narrowed it down a bit.


That's the only downside to this device, right NOW, it eats the X1 for breakfast, give it 6 months to hit the shops, and thats another matter entirely.
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Posted: 2008-12-02 13:51
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iPhone vs N97 pics:









Satio, X1, P1i, HTC Hero, Blokia N900, N97 mini, N95-2, Crackberry Curve 8900 (corporate)
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Posted: 2008-12-02 14:02
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On 2008-12-02 13:47:08, MWEB wrote:

On 2008-12-02 11:54:02, jcwhite_uk wrote:
I like the way it says ships H1 2009. Thats anywhere between 1st Jan and 31st June. Couldnt they have narrowed it down a bit.


That's the only downside to this device, right NOW, it eats the X1 for breakfast, give it 6 months to hit the shops, and thats another matter entirely.



Considering the X1 has better specs than this thing.How does it eat the X1 for breakfast??

Upsides of the N97 are 5 mp cam and a 3.5 inch display(with a pathetically low resolution) and maybe 32gb rom.
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Posted: 2008-12-02 14:04
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Snaps from the conference (courtesy of Rafe):













Satio, X1, P1i, HTC Hero, Blokia N900, N97 mini, N95-2, Crackberry Curve 8900 (corporate)
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Posted: 2008-12-02 14:08
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You might want to wait till MWC 2009 and then make a decision


I know but anything highend from SE or Nokia that will be announced in MWC will most likely come out in fall or winter 09 but I need a multimedia oriented device before July.
I'm hoping that they can bring out the N97 in that time.
I might reconsider if those upcoming phones introduce sometotally new technology.
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Posted: 2008-12-02 14:12
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well all i have to say is nokia has carefully analyzed the market situation and come out with excellent device,Unlike xperia which had several revision both in ram and software from early February, with long development process, which was the only high end smart phone product in SE 2008 Line up

Built in memory of 400 Mb on a multimedia device was a really great mistake done by SE, Here Nokia clearly understand the need for bigger inbuilt memory and had taken brilliant decision of putting 32 Gb memory with opportunity to expand the memory to another 32 Gb. It makes better multimedia device than so called xperia

Brilliant Tilt screen compared to Xperia which was very over hyped for its Curvy/Tilted Design, In this case Nokia has done brilliantly so that u can put ur phone on desk and us it as desktop without having to hold it everytime

A 3.5 Inch Wides screen display with 16 Million colours.A 5mp camera with Dual led xeon flash & Vga Recording -Mpeg4 (which was very Poorly implemented in xperia in 3gp standards, with horrible quality, And one could not excuse the mediocre 3,2 mp camera of xperia which even disappointed greatly during daylight )

And Proximity sensor which switches of the screen during calls.
And one could forgive the recent complaints from the SE users, regarding the low ring volume & poor call quality And SE doesn't make no exception with xperia either.Once again Nokia had done very well here with stereo speakers & also in many of there N and E Series Phones.So that no matter wherever u are , u never miss a call.

Combined to all these the biggest concern of SE and other prospective users was, How good is SE with Windows mobile.WM has many negative feedback among user, which includes complexity and ease of use which had set back .

Here again Nokia has done brilliantly by using symbian s60 os, Familiar around the world with nearly 50 percent market share.

Adding to the equation SE has had a heritage of using slower processors compared to other manufacturers which had led to serious complains among SE user due to their initial a2 platform phones such as w910 & k850.And they were incompetent with their own uiq platform which started with P990 and ended with P1 and G900, Combined with slower process and lesser rams.This another reason which had put many user think twice about getting xperia, which always had weak processors and limited ram .Unlike Nokia which had dealt with the ram issues by providing additional ram and demand paging from N82 and n95 ownwards.Combined with all these the high price of SE X1 puts many to desire.

Overall a well thought out device from Nokia.Understanding the multimedia market Segment. Almost having every Feature a Multimedia Phone needs to have, and having it to the maximum,without compromising on any features , will definitely excite & thrill multimedia users .


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Posted: 2008-12-02 14:14
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Goof-ups from Nokia:

1. The joystick/d-pad on the keyboard is on the left side. What a dumb move! Anyone who's used the E90 or the Communicators will know what I'm talking about.

2. Tiny space bar in the bottom-right corner. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Nokia?!?

3. Where's the app store?? Nokia can't expect this device to take on the might of Apple and the iPhone with something that doesn't have a dedicated app store.

4. The N97 does not seem to have the latest iteration of Nokia Maps (v3.0).

5. No mention of a dedicated graphics chip. Has Nokia killed the N95's line of successors?
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