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Why does the X1 need so many Tweaks to run smoothly? |
Ves
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On 2008-11-23 13:09:59, Dogmann wrote:
Hi all,
Now please don't get the wrong idea about this thread it is not about bashing the X1 it is about trying to understand it though.
Now i know most of these tweaks are quite simple and in fact due to the hard work of some they have even been combined into one package.
But my question is this why does the X1 need these in the first place when very similar devices like the Touch Pro or Touch HD don't. Both of those still have a need to be tweaked to perform better but they don't seem to need tweaks to address the same issues as the X1 has.
What i am talking about is the Tweaks and fixes like the ones below not the tweaks adding additional functionality such as Touch Flo 3D or additional keyboards or panles.
Bluetooth turning off with MortScript
Xperia Tweak not all of it but some of it.
Data connection/auto disconnect tweak.
As all three devices are running WM6.1 and have very similar hardware and this is why i can't really understand why some of these problems are only on the X1. Anyone have a good explanation of why?
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-11-23 12:11 ]
The things your naming, don't happen to every X1 owner. Though the loudest voice their irritation about it, there are many who don't have these issue or all of them.
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@Ves and My P910
Well if that's true the situation is even more strange then how can it only effect most but not all then? Maybe you are all getting different devices after all? Or just maybe some aren't even really using these functions so you don't notice or perceive these problems at all.
@My P910
In your list you don't mention one of the things that is effected and needs a fix. How about when Web Browsing can you get it to use your WiFi or will it just choose the 3G connection anyway? or do you just not care or know?
Do you use a Bluetooth Headset to even notice it doesn't hold a connection?
Do you have any E-Mail accounts set up? are they set to auto retrieve? and if so what Data connection do they use? and are you in control of when it connects or not?
Lastly is yours a Sim Free or branded unit?
So you see it's all very well saying you have no problems if you just don't use any of those features as you haven't come across or noticed them. As from what you typed as your use i can't see why you wanted a smartphone either but of course it's your money and choice.
Now if you think it's only a few people that have had these problems or needed to use the Xperia tweaks i suggest you check out XDA Forum and http://www.xperiax1.net/ to get a more balanced view then.
Marc
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goldenface
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That link seems to be broken for me Marc.
Is it working for anyone else?
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SE-Naz
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THe link works for me
Cheers
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Dogmann
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@Goldenface
Should work now as i used a capital X instead of lower case as was doing it from memory and now copied and pasted.
Marc
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MyP910
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@dogmann
1. I browse web extensively with my xperia. I have wifi and Hsdpa/3G connection on (at home). I don't have any problem. At the office I use Hsdpa only. I browse internet a lot on the bed (before sleep) for blog reading and youtube.
2. I use bluetooth headset (HBH-IV835) and I don't have a problem.... but I have to switch on the bluetooth on my phone.
3. I use Gmail account with my xperia.... and to be honest, I've stopped using my pc for emails as the one on xperia feels like sms. I set automatic check email every 2 hrs. for the connection, same as answer for No.1. I only use email on the pc for downloading big attachement.
4. Mine is O2 branded phone.
... as I said earlier, I don't have any complain with this phone...
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Astral1
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On 2008-11-26 13:12:51, Dogmann wrote:
@Ves and My P910
Now if you think it's only a few people that have had these problems or needed to use the Xperia tweaks i suggest you check out XDA Forum and http://www.xperiax1.net/ to get a more balanced view then.
Marc
Interesting that you mention XDA forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=451110
Keep an eye on this poll. It doesnt agree with you at the moment. 26/11/08 7:07pm.
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Dogmann
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@Astral1
I never said the X1 was bad rubbish or anything like that but to say it is perfect and works perfectly is also far from being true.
That poll also doesn't take into account if any anyone has applied the tweaks and fixes to their X1 or not before voting. Maybe i should start a poll of how many people have added the Xperia Tweak, The Bluetooth fix and the No Data fix so that their X1 runs smoothly.
Now if the X1 didn't have any of these problems why would all the different tweaks of been created and used by so many then?
Perhaps you should read the Xperia tweaks thread with all the users that are thanking the creator for his good work and making their X1's work better.
Some of these problems have been reported not just by VodaFone or 02 users either. As to why some users have these problems whilst others don't also makes very little sense but it is what is happening. If i had kept my X1 i would definitely of had to apply many of these fixes as my VodaFone version had all these problems. But none of these tweaks would of fixed the things that where problems for me and why i sold mine, but at least i had one and used it so could decide for myself.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-11-26 19:35 ] |
mattiL
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Come on now, Dogmann
Who's said X1 "is perfect and works perfectly" ?
It's a WM phone....
And yes, it has some problems like bluetooth (I really dont like this problem),
email (which I don't use yet).
And probably a load of other stuff which I can't remember.
But perfect? I seriously don't think anyones said that yet....
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MyP910
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@dogmann
Up until this moment, I still dont need any tweaking. I've installed tweak 2.0 once. The reason is to have a default panel at startup. that is the only reason. To me, this is not a tweaking to a problem but more a tweaking to a preference.
However, after install tweak 2.0, my x panel button didn't work and I can't change to other panel. Then i uninstall this application and have to restore back to factory setting.
Do I need the tweak ? the answer is no.
Do I think Xperia is perfect ? the answer is no. There is no mobile phone that is perfect. But if you ask me, between iphone and Xperia, I definitely choose Xperia... no doubt.
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@dogmann, it's very common for one user of a particular handset to have certain problems but not others.
For example I have a W910, it has never ever not even once restarted on it's own, yet some people report that this has happened to their own W910's. Enough people have reported this (not the majority of users btw, but a lot of people nevertheless) that it has become a myth that ALL W910 have this restarting problem. It's not true. I have none of the commonly reported issues with my handset.
As others has said before and I agree, it's more likely that people complain about a problem than mention that they have a perfectly working phone. For example I never mention my W910 has no problems until people come along and say ALL W910 have problems (and even then I'm just trying to balance out the argument). But the people who have problems complain LOUD and LONG about it.
So the reported instance of problem handsets is in fact a disproportionate ratio of actual problem handsets.
You will notice that whenever people mention problem handsets, there are always people who come along and say their own phones are fine. When this is not the case, it's a legitimate handset wide bug (such as memory problems on the P990, purple fringing in the K850 photos etc). So you can pretty much assume, if people are reporting that they don't have a particular problem when a bug is reported, that it means it's not a global problem.
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mattiL
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Oh yes, I do have another problem with my X1.
When I connect it by bluetooth to my Audi, the address book is synchronised to the car, but swedish characters are replaced by things like [ / and "space".
This worked ok with my P990i.
Clearly a bug.
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