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c96sthl
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honestly one wish list i hope from any mobile market
a phone that we can choose the OS ourselves....among the choices.
WinMo/ Maemo (since this get hype a lot now)/ Symbian/ Android.
that will be interesting...a phone which can be customized to this level. |
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Dups!
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I guess this is where you and I have to agree to disagree on symbian. My take is that Nokia have been the main driver of symbian with Samsung adding a little to the equation. No so long ago symbian's market share stood at just over 60 percent and that was late 2007 early 2008 but now it hovers around 39 to 41 percent. People have a decent choices today and symbian no longer is the appealing one. Samsung with SE pushing symbian is not enough! SE doesn't even have any penetration while Samsung is joining Nokia on maemo. So, how many symbian units are going to be shipped without Nokia's support?
Someone said Nokia won't allow SE to use maemo? Maemo is based on linux which is mostly open source and with SE being all over the show on smartphone oss I wouldn't be surprised if they join the party. The question is can they afford to as even now they are struggling with 3 different oss?
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synn
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I don't deny that Symbian's marketshare has gone down. But 41% is still a big number and nt to be discounted at.
SE and Samsung have only made baby steps towards the S60/ SF path. We'll have to give them time to see how far it progresses.
I see Symbian thriving in the mid-upper mid segment with entries from all three manufacturers. As long as Nokia keeps putting Symbian in cheapass handsets (I doubt if they want to or even CAN make Maemo work on the less powerful handsets), it'll have significant market presence. Anything SE and Samsung adds to the equation would be a bonus.
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Yep, mid end is where it is likely to be applied with the exception being SE going mostly high-end.
Symbian thriving? I have my doubts. Let's discuss this around late 2011 if we're both still alive, lol. I don't deny that 41 percent is huge but look at the drop- 20 percent is equally huge. Maybe by 2011 you would've proven me wrong or the opposite would've taken place. Let's wait and see.
I also don't see Nokia using maemo on the less than high-end devices unless the market changes drastically that it necessitates the old S60 strategy of going mid-end as well. By the above I'm assuming of course that symbian doesn't make it in the future or as is always the case new technology is discovered that makes it easy to downgrade.
[ This Message was edited by: Dups! on 2009-08-28 08:43 ] It's not what you do or even how you do it but in what state of mind you do it: Dups! 2009 |
KU
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Moreover the best symbian phone is the Omnia HD and not the N97 or the 5800XM and it will surely not be Satio(no jack 3.5 I am sorry but it is unforgivable...  ) then you have winmo with the vulcan which is said to be a great step ahead from SE (thank goodness my first Xperia phone ) To conclude the mysterious Xperia X3 on android
Seeing a maemo device by 2011 won't surprise me cause SE is always late and doesn't have the exchange hardware/software of the leaders 
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c96sthl
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On 2009-08-28 11:33:19, KU wrote:
Moreover the best symbian phone is the Omnia HD and not the N97 or the 5800XM and it will surely not be Satio(no jack 3.5 I am sorry but it is unforgivable... ) then you have winmo with the vulcan which is said to be a great step ahead from SE (thank goodness my first Xperia phone ) To conclude the mysterious Xperia X3 on android
Seeing a maemo device by 2011 won't surprise me cause SE is always late and doesn't have the exchange hardware/software of the leaders
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good to compare it on the utilization of the OS... funny just to rule Satio out because no 3.5 jack.
but i guess from mobile review...for features wise the remark seem to hint it is on par with 5800..... |
KU
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my fast port isn't working very well you know and the headset wires are very buggy and a jack 3.5 like on the W995 would be perfect since the phone will be sold with a usb key.
I also read somewhere that the Satio can playback HD video of the Omnia HD(symbian king) ? |
Dups!
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@c96sthl
So true on os optimization! It would be futile to have all the bells and whistles and have poor implementation of the os.
You'll find quirks like a sluggish phone and terrible rendering of images for example. So, for me, optimization takes precedence.
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Waka
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I don't see winmo disappearing, but if they don't get v7 out of the door in the first half of next year (at the latest) then MS is going to lose some serious ground to android.
I think symbian isn't going to cut it with the current and future generations of 'power' phones and will end up just on the lower-featured, more basic models. It looks like Nokia see it that way too and are going with maemo on their top-end kit.
Now...when can I get my hands on an X3?!
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About Maemo, Afaik Samsung won't use it at all. They will make their own linux-based platform, as Nokia made maemo. So will SE do, if they have enough resources and are clever enough.
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I think the guys at XDA will get WinMo 7 working on X2 anyway, wether there will be an official update or not doesn't really matter if you are only a tiny bit in to modding. It's so easy to install a new ROM.
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badassmam
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WinMo 6.5 should get an upgrade so it runs on capacitive screens. WinMo 7 will go all the way. 6.5 is very powerful and you will see this from the phones coming next month. Vulcan may be upgradable to WinMo 7 but I'm not sure. The hardware for 6.5 devices is very good, it is the most powerful OS by a mile. |
timooz
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I doubt the X2 will be supported by XDA forums as it is not manfactured by HTC !! 
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domipost
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Good point, well, I hope so |
my ninja
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thats stupid, xda supported the X1 and have info threads for the X2/X3, theyll support it, at the end of the day its windows for them, and they did a great job last time, i dont know if theyll dedicate a forum to it, but they will support it. |
se_dude
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Any updates on the proccy??And why does SE not incorporate hardware latforms from its parent Ericsson?? they are more powerful and coming from a parent should be beneficial to SE's needs in the long run. |
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