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Nitro Fan
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Does the latest incarnation of Symbian support touch screens?
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Jimster71
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There won't be an SE version of the symbian foundation platform, there will just be the one platform for all. They will probably change the look and feel and have some of their own apps, but it's still the same platform.
Version 5 of the S60 platform does have touch. Not sure how much of that is from symbian - but they will all soon be nokia employees at symbian anyway. |
ares
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You are not getting it...when people say SE version on symbian foundation, is just the UI...both Motorola and SE use UIQ3.x, but the UI is different
Same goes for Nokia, Samsung and LG regarding s60 v3...
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@ares and Muhammad-Oli
I do hope we get to see that from SE. It would be some sort of consolation to those of us who got accustomed to UIQ. Honestly, and like ares mentioned, UIQ is the better OS compared to S60. Unfortunately...
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Karun
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@Boing
There's a reason for me saying that. This is because, with the P990, SE did not enjoy the safety margin as it had with its previous smartphones. Now its rivals were matching its every move. The P990 itself was such a mess, as Ares rightfully pointed out!
@Ares
I agree with you. That's the only hope that I have too. But with the news that SE's symbian developers are leaving too, things don't look pretty good.
I wish we could just have atleast one more handset based on UIQ touch from SE. the prototype concepts look so cool on their site!  |
djin
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Imo, Most of the people here are misinformed. Symbian Foundation in no way is a doom for Se. Symbian has always been an OS which is customised according to the Manufacturer. So when the new symbian's os is out, SE can tweak it to the way SE has been with UIQ.
Symbian Foundation, has a lot of advantage to SE, rather than just sticking with just UIQ. The new Os could just be like Windows PC. YOu got all the programmes running for PC made by different Manufacturers. So that could mean, sisx and sis would become one, and then those people who used to stick with UIQ would finally get lots of applications, without sacrificing their brand loyalty or the UI. |
Karun
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@djin
Nobody here is misinformed We all know what SF is and what it brings with it.
But if you read between the lines, you'll perhaps notice that SF will be based on Nokia's S60. SE will now also adopt the same. UIQ is history as far as SE is concerned.
I don't know if you've noticed, but UIQ touch ( check out the prototype concepts on their site) is just way more cooler than what nokia is offering with its tube UI.
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djin
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I do know that SF is based on symbian os and s60, but it will have some stuffs from UIQ and MOAP.
Of course, UIQ will be history when symbian foundation's released, so does any other variant of symbian(s60, etc.).
UI is not a big problem, and i do think the UI of SF would be much better than the present s60. Also SE could customize the UI for their company. So UI is not a big problem.
Now what do people want more, 10000+ application with which they could actually even customise most of the part of their UI, or just stick with UIQ and get stuck with their great UI and not many application?
So i fully support SF, and the move by Nokia,SE and other company's. |
Nitro Fan
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OK I think we have established that what most people here call SE Symbian merely refers to the GUI which in the case of  is UIQ3.
But what I want to know is, has the symbian foundation effectively made S60 the sole GUI supported by Symbian?
Or will UIQ3 continue to be a usable interface with the latest versions of the Symbian SW.
If this is the case, does S60 support touch screen operation? it would be a shame to see the end of touch screen handsets
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djin
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It should support touch interface, as the new s60 does(which is there in 5800).
The UI, is really upto Se, how they want it in their phones. So far i dont really know the limitations of SF regarding the UI. |
Nitro Fan
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On 2008-10-04 13:37:32, djin wrote:
It should support touch interface, as the new s60 does(which is there in 5800).
The UI, is really upto Se, how they want it in their phones. So far i dont really know the limitations of SF regarding the UI.
Hi djin,
Thank you for your reply,
So there is no real reason to assume that is unlikely to produce any further "Symbian" devices assuming they device to use the S60 interface.
Is it however reasonable to assume that is unlikely to develop any further UIQ3 Symbian devices?
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Karun
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the core of the new SF platform will be based on S60. Some parts of UIQ may be added, but its basically S60 all the way. And all S60 apps will be supported. But there are so many things that was unique about UIQ that'll be lost.
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Nitro Fan
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On 2008-10-04 15:00:25, kurt_karun wrote:
the core of the new SF platform will be based on S60. Some parts of UIQ may be added, but its basically S60 all the way. And all S60 apps will be supported. But there are so many things that was unique about UIQ that'll be lost.
OK, that was along way round to a simple answer thank you!
As for UIQ shame but really do only have themselves to blame they had a golden opportunity they grabbed the market lead with the P800, but instead of knuckling down and capitalising on their lead they frittered it away with arrogance.
Reminds me of the Betamax V VHS saga of the 80's and surprise surprise hey that was Sony as well!
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djin
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Nitro, there is no point for SE to release any more UIQ3 based phones, and with the new rumour, if its true, they already got the SF based device being prepared for next year, and hopefully with the UI of SE, it should be great, the real competition has just started, and its ,in the long term, is a good decision, because that would bring out more functionality to se's symbian phones.
Also, the new standard, blu ray was also set by sony(ofcourse with the help of other 100's of company's) |
Nitro Fan
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On 2008-10-05 00:43:30, djin wrote:
Nitro, there is no point for SE to release any more UIQ3 based phones, and with the new rumour, if its true, they already got the SF based device being prepared for next year, and hopefully with the UI of SE, it should be great, the real competition has just started, and its ,in the long term, is a good decision, because that would bring out more functionality to se's symbian phones.
Also, the new standard, blu ray was also set by sony(ofcourse with the help of other 100's of company's)
I think you will find it was the movie industry that made BluRay the defacto standard
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Posted: 2008-10-03 17:18
