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Pkll
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Posted: 2003-01-10 01:04
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nei.. det er på Jordal.....
HolyPikachu
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Posted: 2003-01-10 02:56
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Hiiii ^_^


I change from SE to Nokia, just to Nokia 7650! I am proud when first T68 released with MCA-10, it's a revolution. But SE can't improve the pic quality photo with super bad MCA-20, 25, T68i and P800. Even the latest P800 (the most advanced) phone can't produce as good as 7650 do. With NEARLY TWICE HIGHER PRICE!

I just don;t get it with the $150 MCA-20 and MCA-25!? It's a wasted money compared with the phone pic quality taken by 'em. U must have PC, notebook to see it 'perfectly'. It's very useless.

P800:
Good:
- Many options and setting (But sometimes it's confusing and not simple).
- THAT'S ALL

Bad:
- Bad picture (compared with CAPABILITY: 4096 TFT LCD SCREEN)
- The viewfinder is not as smooth as 7650
- No lens cover (Wow, $700 nightmare!)
- No nightshot option

7650:
Good:
- Simple and fast!
- Lens cover (the super bright idea)
- Great pic taken
- Great viewfinder (almost PERFECT even in nightshot)
- A lot cheaper than P800

Bad:
- A few option and setting (but sometimes it is more convenience)

Come on SE, release more great product! Nokia has 5 more! Samsung 4\3 more! Panasonic 2 more (great GD88) and others.

And u??????


Nadro
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Posted: 2003-01-10 03:08
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we talked about the camera. not the whole phone! 7650 dont stand a chance against p800! u can watch movies. u can extend the memory up to 128mb! 7650 u have 4mb???.hmm. not much! and a bigger nicer display! u can use p800 as a mp3 player! can the n7650 beat that??? no

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HolyPikachu
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Posted: 2003-01-10 03:27
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P800 target market is not clear enough.

Camera phone: beaten by 7650

MP3 player: convenience with SL45

PDA phone: ipaq and Journada

P800 acumulate 'all ini one' capability with $700 price. But i'm afraid those capabilities are not each great. T_T

The real one of P800 is Jotter capability has great sensitivity! ^_^
pabbas
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Posted: 2003-01-10 03:53
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If you want a good camera that attached to a phone buy Siemens S57. The camera has built in flash in it
jcpsad
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Posted: 2003-01-10 04:27
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Quote:

On 2003-01-10 03:08, Nadro wrote:
we talked about the camera. not the whole phone! 7650 dont stand a chance against p800! u can watch movies. u can extend the memory up to 128mb! 7650 u have 4mb???.hmm. not much! and a bigger nicer display! u can use p800 as a mp3 player! can the n7650 beat that??? no



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yeah look who's talking! yeah we're talking about camera but you're saying about the memory? and movies? btw... we're talikng about the camera itself!
Froddan
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Posted: 2003-01-10 04:32
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And talking about the camera, can P800 record movies?
No, but 7650 can.
contaygious
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Posted: 2003-01-10 06:56
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But u only have 4 megs to store them on!!!!!!!!!
I HAVE A P800!!!!!!!!!
antonios
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Posted: 2003-01-10 10:13
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So which phone you guys think can handle pictures better? P800 or 7650. Also what about the 3650. Its out in Honk Kong already and sells for $400
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I can resist everything except temptation(P800)..
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SilveR.
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Posted: 2003-01-10 11:38
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@ HolyPikachu.

I know the quality on P800 is better than 7650 on day light.
A question who takes photo in night? How good is the night picture from 7650?

P800 No lens cover? I don't need it, the out cover still can be out change if u wanna it. And the lens is inside, maybe u have't use P800?
Not simpel take picture? maybe u are too dumb? click cam buttion, then Click, so simpel as it.
Bad picture? the screen is much better than 7650, don't even know what u talk about?

Which phone is most ugly bettwen 7650 and P800?
Wowwwwwwwwwww?
Mp3, I don't even use, it couse I still got mine NetMD. But u can still many picture , much ringtones , plus some works from word etc, as 128 meg, it's a lot!



I mean 4 meg, GOD..
chanmhg
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Posted: 2003-01-10 11:55
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I agree with u 7650 is rubbish
nokia sux
Deltayoda
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Posted: 2003-01-10 12:29
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My problem with these phone cams is that the images get very blurry if you shake or move to much in poor light conditions, even outside, especially when it's cloudy and snowing right now all over Europe. I agree that it's great for MMS, but not so great as a digital camera for printing out photos, or for normal PC use.

I have no problem lugging around a digital camera and then just coming home to transfer images to my Ipaq.
chanmhg
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Posted: 2003-01-10 12:33
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yea but it's still better than 7650
Froddan
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Posted: 2003-01-10 13:05
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@ contaygious
Yea, only 4meg... But that makes it even harder to understand why p800 can't, with all that memory.
SpaceAttack
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Posted: 2003-01-10 13:56
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I just found some "low light pictures" on a german board. I can't see that the 7650-Cam is the better one.

The one taken with the 7650 (seems brighter but blurry):


And the P800 one (much warmer colors and better pointsharpness):


The one who has take this picture means, that the secret to good P800 pictures are the right setting. The possible settings of the P800-CamMode seems to be quit more flexible.

CU
SpaceAttack

[ This Message was edited by: SpaceAttack on 2003-01-10 12:59 ]
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