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jack078
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Posted: 2003-01-05 01:04
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@lizardKng

I have the mac-20 and t68i. the problem is the connection point are awful. (anyone has this problem too??) with a light touch on the cam would disconnect it and need to re adjust or re plug them again. sometimes I have to plug and unplug many times in order to use.
and seeing pics from the 256 screen is not that fun man.

as my service provider in canada doesn't support MMS.... so, MMS purpose is useless to us in canada
Omar
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Posted: 2003-01-05 01:11
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I have the P800, wife has Nokia 7650. Hate to say it but the Nokia has the better camera/pics. More clourful, vibrant.
Bjerkebanen
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Posted: 2003-01-05 01:27
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laffen is this far away from midelalderparken?
Xlns
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Posted: 2003-01-05 01:42
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I have both two and must say that P800 is more colourful, and has more brilliant colors:

Pics with 7650 (high quality):










Pics with P800:

If you compare this one with the one taken from a 7650 you'll notice that you can actually see more details. The pics have been taken in differente days, but in equal lighting conditions at midday.




The second one compares to the second for nokia, just a bit lower. But you can compare the color of the sky, much more vibrant with P800.




The following one is taken by night with just an artificial light. Here again P800 is pretty good.




During daylight P800 camera KILLS the one in 7650. Just look at precision and detail of this pic.



[ This Message was edited by: Xlns on 2003-01-05 02:09 ]
caff
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Posted: 2003-01-05 02:02
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Agree.......Photos taken from P800 looks better than 7650.......photos taken from 7650 looks very blur compare to P800......However, MCA-20 or 25 still produce the best quality photos out of these !!!
laffen
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Posted: 2003-01-05 02:44
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@Bjekebanen: No, it's close to the Middelalderparken

This post was posted from a P800

jack078
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Posted: 2003-01-05 09:59
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thanks Xlns, laffen and all dudes reply very quick

very detail info. and the pic of p800 is kinda impress as a cell phone
I probably go for P800. hope us and canada will have it lauched sooner
psikey
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Posted: 2003-01-05 10:01
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Again, the P800 photo's I have seen are good enough for me for general pictures.

Being able to send a quick photo to a sub-contractor or supplier regarding parts or machine repairs at work will be great.
Froddan
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Posted: 2003-01-05 14:38
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My impressions on the cams.

P800
+ Good quality landscape pics. You can use it as a "spy cam", no one knows if you're taking photos or just playing with it, 7650 has to be opened to take pics. Many options in the cam menu. Big memory.

- Quite poor indoors and close up photos. Really poor viewfinder, flickering screen. Not that simple to use, may require changes in the settings menu for a good result. Only one time slot in sending over gprs, takes an awful long time to send big photos. No lens cover.

7650
+ Very easy to use, no need to change settings just take a pic. Great viewfinder, sharp and crisp. Good quality indoors and close up pics. Two time slots on gprs, fast sending of photos. Lens covered when folded.

- Blurry edges on landscape photos. Not many options on settings. Lack of memory.
laffen
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Posted: 2003-01-06 10:09
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Images updated. See earlier post in this thread. This time it was a little lighter outside so the size of the files is smaller.
Hurrle
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Posted: 2003-01-06 10:48
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Why do people always complain about the T68 and MCA-XX. It's not ment to be viewed on the phone. You just use the phone to see approximately how the picture look and to find the picture you want to use, and then send to a computer. When used on a computer the MCA-20 is better than the 7650.

When people tell me that the pictures of MCA-20 is bad, and the 7650 is excellent, it's because they compare the pictures on the phone (ofcourse the 7650 looks better with 4096 colors!). But when compared on the computer as it's supposed to, the MCA-20 is better.

Take a look at a proper digital camera. How good does the picture look at the LCD? How good does the picture look at a computer?
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jibuti
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Posted: 2003-01-06 11:21
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Basically, it is stupid to compare 0,3 MP made with p800 or T68 with classical 2,3 or even 5 megap. camera.You are anyway limited with MMS-sending-format , if you can not send it by E-mail....
r361
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Posted: 2003-01-06 11:28
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so if you guys compare the quality of pics taken with 7650, P800, and MCA-20/25.. which is the best?
michaeljacobs
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Posted: 2003-01-06 12:23
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i reckon its the mca20/25... as when taking the picture, its constructed so that you have two hands on the phone keeping it as still as possible, i.e the button is in a convenient possition.

yes i did get that problem, the camera would very often disconnect and this could sometimes be in the middle of sending an mms/email. anyway, i was a victim of street crime a few weeks ago, got my t68i and camera taken. i've got a gold t68 with the i software and still hvave hbh30 but, i really do miss having a camera, even though it was an extra, the quality when sent to a computer in full resolution was very very good. let downs compared to the 7650 were perhaps the pathetic frame refresh rate, about 2 times per second, whereas the 7650 screen was refreshed 10-20.
anyone know what the frame refresh rate is like on the p800 compared to 7650 and t68i?
Froddan
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Posted: 2003-01-06 13:19
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@ Laffen
Quite impressive photos. What settings have you used?

@ Michael
The refresh rate on P800 is similar to 7650, still the viewfinder is not as good and it's slower in saving photos. When you've taken a pic with 7650 it immeadetly saves it and is ready for next, on P800 it takes a couple of secs.

By fiddling around with the settings on P800, you can get some really great photos, a little blurry at the edges but far from as blurred up as 7650 pics. Not that easy to use and get the settings right, but very good pics, for a cell phone.
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