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plankgatan
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(well well....you must have some special k800 then. all other k800 pics is behind in quality against c902).
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back to on topic:
after i seen this latest pics, i actually might can live with c905 strange front keys & its wieght, etc. if i order one today, i have it in middle of october...  and thats soon
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AbuBasim
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On 2008-09-28 11:24:13, plankgatan wrote:
(well well....you must have some special k800 then. all other k800 pics is behind in quality against c902).
So plankis, here's a challenge for you: I took one of your C902 photos and:
1. Scaled down to 2048x1536 (i.e. 3 MP) using Weighted Average as the scaling method.
2. Scaled it up again to 2592x1944 (5 MP) using Bicubic scaling method.
3. Applied sharpening.
For this I used Paint Shop Pro 8.
Which of the following is the original and which was scaled down and up?
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Raiderski
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Plank oh Plank, what for you posted pics not from C905 in thread about C905? didn't I explained to you why these 2 pics are not comparable? isn't discussion about K800 vs. C902 ended? do you feel better than others because you have better camera than others? at least... could you try to understand what you read and stop this irritating way of discussion with other people? if you have something against me, don't spam forum, use PM. roger that?
AbuBasim
great example of megapixel myth
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Tobbis
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But my screen dont have 3mp resolution, I only have 1920 x 1200. So thats makes it impossible to see the different between the scale up and down and the original cause they are both scaled down to be view on my screen. Im am not completely sure im right here, but i think that this is the case.
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awwwww.... i actually looked up "megapixel myth" and it made me rethink of buying the phone |
Raiderski
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hehe, yes, especially night pics
EDIT: don't say "WE" - you are not voice of all people
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strizlow800
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The second night pic seem to be sharp and good enough...
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plankgatan
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we was 2 people who took the pictures...thats why WE
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Abu, you quite something... why did you choose the one with less great details...why didnt you choose the ones with better details
you can find pics even from marcus c905 with bad details...its just depending where you looking.
c902 produce really clean pics as well....if you choose to look at them:
hell, even indoor have ok details:
and yes, every picture WE took there was k800 behind in quality.
sorry for off topic
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AbuBasim
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On 2008-09-28 12:04:16, Tobbis wrote:
But my screen dont have 3mp resolution, I only have 1920 x 1200. So thats makes it impossible to see the different between the scale up and down and the original cause they are both scaled down to be view on my screen. Im am not completely sure im right here, but i think that this is the case.
The samples I posted are shown at 100 percent scale so even a 1024x768 monitor will display them in full.
On 2008-09-28 12:18:15, plankgatan wrote:
Abu, you quite something... why did you choose the one with less great details...why didnt you choose the ones with better details
I thought it had plenty of contrast and sharpness. I take it that you're not ready to accept the challenge?
Edit: Your plate shot above before and after treatment:
The Esato tag reveals which one is treated. But can you see any difference in the photo itself?
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@abubasim, great illustration mate 
The top one has slightly less noise and the darks are darker. But the difference is so marginal. And that still doesn't help decide which one is the original, because that could have come from the post processing
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Raiderski
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what's the name of this thread?
"Sony Ericsson 8.1MP C905 Discussion (Shiho)"
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"I can proove that my C902 roxx the world"
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plankgatan
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Abu...are you telling me that i have edit this indoor picture ????
Raeder...have you allready forgott your post about k800 and c902 in previous page ???? (just silly to read when youself talking about it)
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AbuBasim
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On 2008-09-28 12:28:27, max_wedge wrote:
@abubasim, great illustration mate
The top one has slightly less noise and the darks are darker.
The top is the treated photo. The slightly less sharpening is there because I couldn't emulate C902's level of sharpening using PSP8. For the above plate shot I used PSP X2 which allows sharpening when scaling using the Bicubic method. This with the additional sharpening step after scaling up seems at least to me to be almost spot on.
On 2008-09-28 12:36:59, plankgatan wrote:
Abu...are you telling me that i have edit this indoor picture ????
No, I meant that my treated copy reveals which I treated.
Post your best C902 photo at full size and I will then post the megapixel challenge again for you.
Edit: Here is an example of a C905 photo scaled down to 4 MP (2320x1740) and then back again to 8 MP. I took one of marcusradecker's excellent photos. Below are 100 percent crops of the original and the treated. Anyone can see what happened to the missing 4 megapixels?
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max_wedge
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The case of the Houdini Pixels
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Hiron
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Wondering where the additional 4MP gone... You're right, Abu. I've tried this on my K850... Rescaled to 3MP without detail loss...
Then I tried K800 (3.2MP). I can resized it to 2 MP...
Offtopic: could you post megapixel challenge using this Canon pic, the ice truck one that is fake  :
http://i.data.bg/08/09/26/1170661_orig.jpg
Just kidding 
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