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SaLiH
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Posted: 2008-03-21 01:58
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I made this post in January, when I saw some members asking questions about CCD camera mobile phones in ''does SO905iCS coming to Europe ?'' thread. Since Sony α revived popularity of SO905iCS, I've visited that thread again and remembered this post I forgot to publish back then. So I'm publishing it now.

List of probably all the CCD camera phones in the world. (I like Japanese and Korean phones a lot, so I keep myself well informed about their phones. (Almost all of CCD camera phones come from Korea and Japan)

I didn't post photos of the phones, because then the thread would become slow for those browsing on slow connections.

Finally here's the list:

1 MP CCD Camera phones:

Sharp GX32 (1 MP)

Sharp V801SH (1 MP)

Sharp TM150 (1 MP)

Sharp 802 (1.3 MP)

Sharp V402SH (1.3 MP)

Mitsubishi M900/M430i (1.3 MP) interpolated to 2 MP

Sony Ericsson S700i (1.3 MP)

Sony Ericsson S710i (1.3 MP)


2 MP CCD Camera phones:

Casio HS7000 (2 MP)

Sharp TM200 (2 MP)

Sharp 902 (2 MP)

Sharp V602SH (2 MP)

Sharp 705SH (2 MP)

Toshiba 803T (2.26 MP)

Mitsubishi V401D (2 MP)

Samsung SPH-V5100 (2MP)

Samsung SGH-i750 (2 MP)

Samsung MM-A800 (2 MP)

LG HS8000 (2 MP)

Pantech & Curitel PH-L4000V (2.1 MP)

Pantech & Curitel PH-K1500 (2.1 MP)

Pantech PT-K110 (2 MP)

Pantech PG-8000 (2.1 MP)

Pantech PG-6100 (2 MP)

Casio W52CA (2.07 MP)


3 MP CCD Camera phones:


Casio-A5406CA (3,2 MP)

Casio-W31CA (3,2 MP)

Sharp 903 (SX833) (3.15 MP)

Sharp 904 (3.15 MP)

XCute DV1 (3.15 MP)

XCute DV2 (3.15 MP) interpolated to 6 MP

Samsung SCH-A990 (3.2 MP)

Samsung Z710 (3.2 MP)

Samsung P850 (3.15 MP)

Samsung SPH-S2300 (3.2 MP)


4 MP CCD Camera phones:

VK Mobile VK2200 (4 MP)

Lenovo v920 (4 MP)


5 MP CCD Camera phones:

Samsung-SCH-S250 (P860) (5 MP)

Samsung SPH-V7800 (5.2 MP)

Samsung SCH-B380 (5MP)

Pantech IM-8600 (5 MP)

LG KG920 (5 MP)

GIGABYTE g-Cam (5 MP)

XCute DV50 (5 MP) interpolated to 8 MP

XCute DV80 (5 MP) interpolated to 8 MP

Sharp 910sh (5 MP)

Casio Exilim-W53Ca (5.1 MP)

SAMART i-mobile 902 (5 MP) interpolated to 8 MP


6 MP CCD Camera phones:

Surprisingly still no 6 MP camera phone, which is weird since camera experts said that 6 MP is enough for great quality photos, and more MP is just a marketing trick to make people buy higher MP cameras.

There was only this interpolated 6 MP camera phone so far:

XCute DV2 (3.15 MP) interpolated to 6 MP

Edited:

Lensas F2218 (6.1 MP)

liukaitc told us that Lensas F2218 is actually 6.1 MP phone, interpolated to 8 MP. That means that there is a real 6.1 MP phone after all! Thanks for the info liukaitc!


7 MP CCD Camera phones:

Samsung SCH-V770 (7 MP)

Samsung SCH-B500 (7.7 MP)


8 MP CCD Camera phones:

Samsung SPH-V8200 (8 MP)

Interpolated 8 MP CCD phones:

SAMART i-mobile 902 (5 MP) interpolated to 8 MP

Lensas F2218 (6.1 MP) interpolated to 8 MP

XCute DV50 (5 MP) interpolated to 8 MP

XCute DV80 (5 MP) interpolated to 8 MP


10 MP CCD Camera phones:

Samsung SCH-B600 (10 MP)


My personal favorites are these four Korean CCD camera phones, or should I say cameras with phone function!;) I don't care about their size, I would still like to have any of these four phones, because they really have real cameras, and produce stunning photos. I had i-mobile 902 which also has 5 MP CCD sensor, but it can't compete with these phones.







Left to right:

Samsung SPH-S2300 (3.2 MP) (year 2004)

Samsung SPH-V7800 (5.2 MP) (year 2004)

Samsung SCH-V770 (7 MP) (year 2005)

Samsung SCH-B600 (10 MP) (year 2006)


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Posted: 2008-03-21 02:29
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Sure it'd be cool to have one of those last ones, but they are so ugly!

And with the lens thing sticking out the back, they just look ridiculous!
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Posted: 2008-03-21 02:45
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^^ They look high tech to me

although the idea of a sticking lens barrel is fragile for mobile usage. the Samsung's G800/G810 and SE's W62/SO905iCS optical zoom approach is much better imo and in fact Samsung and SE are capable of fitting the 1/2.5" CCD on that form factor.
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SaLiH
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Posted: 2008-03-21 02:45
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@Muhammad-Oli - I agree, but I would be ready to put that all aside if they would completely replace dedicated digital camera, and they sure would.

@razec - They look high tech to me too, and I like the sticking lens, it looks like a real camera.



Samsung SPH-S2300 (3.2 MP)



Samsung SPH-V7800 (5.2 MP)



Samsung SCH-V770 (7 MP)



Samsung SCH-B600 (10 MP)


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Hows the user interface of those samsung phones? my experience with Samsung UI was not that good. i hate their UIs before. though it has changed when i used D880, i450 and G800.

Judging by the camera quality i can't any anything. CCD power is undoubtable. no need to show 100% crops then
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Posted: 2008-03-21 07:47
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Samsung pretty much owns that entire list.
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Posted: 2008-03-21 08:17
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@razec - I'm also not sure about the interface, because I haven't seen it, I hope it's fast. I wouldn't like to have a phone with a great camera and slow and buggy software (that's the case with i-mobile 902)

@QVGA - You're right, Korean Samsung seems like totally different brand from the global Samsung. I mean G600, G800, G810, U900 all look like toys compared to their phones in Korea.



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Posted: 2008-03-22 11:02
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@SaLiH,

I'm disappointed that you missed one The only 3 MP CCD model Samsung released for the GSM market was the SGH-z710. This was a twin to the CDMA model SCH-a990 available in the US. Mobile-review.com posted a review of the camera here.

Edit: It looks like you got it, but with a typo in the model number. You have listed z700 but the model number is z710. But you missed the a990
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Hehe!

Nice to see the thread revival!

Agreed, the majority of times, the Charge Coupled Device outperforms its CMOS counterpart - but as Sony showed with the 'Cyber-shot' DSC-R1 - the CMOS can also perform miracles, outperforming many CCD devices!

Check it out below!







This just rocks, seriously!





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On 2008-03-22 12:26:19, Sony α wrote:
Hehe!

Nice to see the thread revival!

Agreed, the majority of times, the Charge Coupled Device outperforms its CMOS counterpart - but as Sony showed with the 'Cyber-shot' DSC-R1 - the CMOS can also perform miracles, outperforming many CCD devices!

Although CCD is still more sensitive, CMOS is cheaper and make larger sensors more affordable, and when the sensor is large enough, sensitivity becomes less critical. And readout is faster, making features like high-speed video (like Viewty's 120fps recording) possible.
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^^
Hi Abu Basim:

Viewty has a cmos sensor right? but more of a newer type then. i just imagine the moment when i visited engadget then suddenly i read that Sony had developed a 12mp APS-C cmos sensor compatible for canon 40D which almost doubles the framespeed from 6.5fps(40D) to 10fps(with the new sensor) i think at this moment making the sensor bigger to accomodate more light is not that essential anymore with the advent of this new technology
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Does N82 houses CCD sensor.
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@waspinator:

No, N82 uses a 1/2.5" CMOS - same type as with N95/N95 8Gb.
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On 2008-03-22 23:47:15, razec wrote:
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Hi Abu Basim:

Viewty has a cmos sensor right? but more of a newer type then. i just imagine the moment when i visited engadget then suddenly i read that Sony had developed a 12mp APS-C cmos sensor compatible for canon 40D which almost doubles the framespeed from 6.5fps(40D) to 10fps(with the new sensor) i think at this moment making the sensor bigger to accomodate more light is not that essential anymore with the advent of this new technology


Keep in mind that higher frame rate doesn't mean higher sensitivity. This is just a measure of how fast a sensor can delivery image data, measured in frames per second. A phone like Viewty still needs plenty of light when shooting high-speed video. If you on the other hand go for larger sensors then sensitivity jumps up and start approaching that of CCD. Comparing Sony's huge IMX021 12 MP sensor with their old ICX495 5 MP CCD, the IMX021 has six times larger image cells but it's sensitivity is only three times higher. Imagine a CCD sensor the size of the IMX021 coupled with Canon's old f/1.0 lens... (then imaging it's power requirements...)

(The ICX495 is used in the i-mobile 902, and I think also LG KG920 and Gigabyte g-cam.)
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Lensas F2218 (8 MP)

This is wrong. This phone is made from china ( or you can say taiwan).I am sure know it better than you guys.
It is also a Interpolated 8 MP CCD phones. The active pixel is 6.1MP. Use Panasonic CCD sensor (the samples you can search on the internet were took with maxiuam 8 mp, i am sure if took with active 6.1mp there will be less noise)

Actually, this phone's camera is good. The company has 22 years experience in the optical field, and had been manufacturing camera lens for Japan,Korea company for many years. Now they just enter cellphone filed, making their own product.



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