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AbuBasim
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Posted: 2008-02-21 05:55
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On 2008-02-20 23:35:00, plankgatan wrote:
k810 take better pics then T650 and K770...no doubt about that...
sure, you can get good pics with k770, but k810 is more "exact".
k770 have unequal pic quality, some pics looks great and some looks realy bad.there you have the major different between this two cameras

k810 have also more vivid colors and better sharpness.

like i said, k770 is no bad phone, but better then k810 ???? no way.

Is this your opinion only, or can you point to some examples of where the K770 is worse than the K810? BTW, did you look at the examples posted on the link (this) posted on page 2 of this thread?

My own take on the picture quality from these phones is that the K810 compared to the K770 is suffering from exactly the same problem a lot of people complain about when comparing the N95 with the K850, namely too much noise reduction and sharpening. To me the K770 photos look more natural.

Here's an example (from the same site linked above) which I think is very typical:
Which of the following two cropped photos do you think look better and which one of these looks like it came from the N95?



One more example, this time also showing that one of the cameras is having problems with the white balance (and this you can also see in the above example as well):



I would pick the K770 anytime before the K810 and not only due to better camera but also for the K810 looking b*tt-ugly with those stupid circular buttons. Where did they get those, from an old TV remote from the 70s?
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Posted: 2008-02-21 06:40
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What sensor does the K770 use because from the photo comparisons on the first page, the quality is reminiscent of the CCD sensors SE used to apply. And I think it is rightly better than K810 since it is a newer model (eventhough the model number is not greater, but that shouldn't the kind of quality we should expect).
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Posted: 2008-02-21 07:53
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@plankgatan
have you ever happened to see my review anyway?


k770 even takes better daylight pics than k850. lol. [addsig]
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Posted: 2008-02-21 08:52
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lolololololo looooooooool

i still believe after looking at MANY k770 pics at Flickr.com that k770 is quite unequal................k810 is more even and have better sharpness and vivid colors.......its my thought.

if i should choose between k770 and k810, i should go for k810....more beatiful, better battery, better camera, etc

k770 have also NO xenon flash which i think is VERY important.(i dont know about you guys, but i use my xenon flash very often).

k770 have also NO BestPic, which i also think is VERY nice to have.

i rather buy T650 then k770....i LoVe T650

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Posted: 2008-02-21 09:46
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if u wan to choose k810i, tats your choice. n i don tink tat u wan to force people to follow u to also get k810i too..

u hav your own perception..i hav mine. if u don like k770i, jus sit one side n use your k810i.
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Posted: 2008-02-21 09:47
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On 2008-02-21 05:55:42, AbuBasim wrote:

On 2008-02-20 23:35:00, plankgatan wrote:
k810 take better pics then T650 and K770...no doubt about that...
sure, you can get good pics with k770, but k810 is more "exact".
k770 have unequal pic quality, some pics looks great and some looks realy bad.there you have the major different between this two cameras

k810 have also more vivid colors and better sharpness.

like i said, k770 is no bad phone, but better then k810 ???? no way.

Is this your opinion only, or can you point to some examples of where the K770 is worse than the K810? BTW, did you look at the examples posted on the link (this) posted on page 2 of this thread?

My own take on the picture quality from these phones is that the K810 compared to the K770 is suffering from exactly the same problem a lot of people complain about when comparing the N95 with the K850, namely too much noise reduction and sharpening. To me the K770 photos look more natural.

Here's an example (from the same site linked above) which I think is very typical:
Which of the following two cropped photos do you think look better and which one of these looks like it came from the N95?



One more example, this time also showing that one of the cameras is having problems with the white balance (and this you can also see in the above example as well):



I would pick the K770 anytime before the K810 and not only due to better camera but also for the K810 looking b*tt-ugly with those stupid circular buttons. Where did they get those, from an old TV remote from the 70s?
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nice coprassion!!
thats is teh proof, k770 is a lot better...
btw k770 is first and k810 is second on pictures.

k810 have also more vivid colors



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Posted: 2008-02-21 11:12
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On 2008-02-21 06:40:55, mode wrote:
What sensor does the K770 use because from the photo comparisons on the first page, the quality is reminiscent of the CCD sensors SE used to apply.

K770's sensor type was mentioned on page 2 in this thread. It's a Samsung CMOS sensor. The problem with CMOS sensors is that they are capable of producing good photos with less noise but most camera phone producers have noise reduction and sharpening switched on always, even when shooting in bright daylight. Here's an example: 1024x768 center crop from a photo from the 2MP CMOS camera in the i-mate JASJAM:
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Posted: 2008-02-21 12:33
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k810 is sooo much better. k810 have better features, Xenon flash, etc. some of this k810 pics looks terrible, im used to much better then that...he he he

when a k770 manage this stuff im convinced
k810 rules baby










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Posted: 2008-02-21 12:39
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sorry


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Posted: 2008-02-21 12:43
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i also believe k770 feels rather cheap in your hand...it dosent have this solid feeling, (feels kind of plastic)........njjjaaaaa, k810 eats k770 like nothing.

no offend to all k770 owners
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Posted: 2008-02-21 14:14
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why ppl believe that the k810i camera is better than the one in k800i ? i don't think so.. compared them through and through... also the design of the k800i is to me much more appealing than k810i (with these freaky little buttons).. but thats maybe, because i do like that "business" style more than that "cool" style of k810i...
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Posted: 2008-02-21 15:26
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On 2008-02-21 12:43:24, plankgatan wrote:
i also believe k770 feels rather cheap in your hand...it dosent have this solid feeling, (feels kind of plastic)........njjjaaaaa, k810 eats k770 like nothing.

no offend to all k770 owners
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-02-21 11:45 ]


if u feel k770i cheap? than tat is your problem. how about u sponsor us k810i than we throw away k770i? so u would be happy many people using k810i n not the cheap k770i?

hmm..gd idea! waiting for your k810i...
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Posted: 2008-02-21 17:14
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On 2008-02-21 12:33:45, plankgatan wrote:
k810 is sooo much better. k810 have better features, Xenon flash, etc. some of this k810 pics looks terrible, im used to much better then that...he he he

when a k770 manage this stuff im convinced
k810 rules baby

You just posted a bunch of resized K810i photos and then say that your phone is the best and ignore all comparisons that show that you're wrong...

A typical post from plankgatan... I bet that you will have nothing to say about the comparisons I posted on the previous page (here) and you will just keep repeating your opinions here and perhaps some more samples from your phone only without of course any comparisons.


On 2008-02-21 06:40:55, mode wrote:
What sensor does the K770 use because from the photo comparisons on the first page, the quality is reminiscent of the CCD sensors SE used to apply.

Hey plankgatan! When was the last time someone mistook the sensor in the K810i for being CCD?

A common tactic by politicians in the West is to repeat lies often enough until people start believing them. Seems that some people try the same tactic while posting online...

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Vipera ammodytes
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Posted: 2008-02-21 23:10
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AbuBasim

I agree with you in every word!
WE have coprassion between k770 and k810 and its clear who has better picture quality(k770)

A common tactic by politicians in the West is to repeat lies often enough until people start believing them. Seems that some people try the same tactic while posting online...


true!

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IMO: k770 has better picture quality(honestly)....when i bought a phone last January im supposed to buy a phone and im stuck choosing between k810i and k770i...i ended up buying the k770i...one of my basis for buying the k770i is that i dont like the keypad and especially the joystick of the k810i. (SE joysticks for sometime experiences problems in functioning....just like my k750i before and my friend's k800i...they wont go right and up)

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