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Posted: 2008-02-11 19:56
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On 2008-02-11 14:30:38, XPHCTOC wrote:
There are some differences between the device shown in this thread and the "official" pictures




instead of blue rectangle we can see on X1 mini website "fn"
instead of smiley there is a "ctrl" button
last instead of windows button there is an "esc"...
*-)

Itīs one more button, between "caps" and "z". Looks like "@"
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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:02
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I like the keyboard in the promo shots better. Looks more professional.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:03
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On 2008-02-11 19:14:53, laurenke01 wrote:

On 2008-02-11 18:55:23, Nanu wrote:
He is referring to the imaging phone not the X1, and aGPS is assistedGPS if there is no GPS built in what exactly is it assisting???



Precisely my thinking. You can't have aGPS without having GPS of some kind.

It's kind like of like HSUPA. If you have that, the assumption is that you also have HSDPA.


I'm thinking... the phone handset can assist a seperate GPS receiver by giving it cell-based positioning information from an aGPS server, thus reducing computation, and speeding up time-to-fix. I think it will also help in partial-signal situations.

I'd love to believe that the X1 has built in hardware GPS, but I find it too good to be true, especially given the compact size of the unit, the other functions they've squeezed in, and the fact they have been very quiet about GPS.

Until I hear from someone who has used the phone that it has a built in GPS, and that they've seen it running, then I'm going to assume it requires an external GPS receiver

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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:06
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Beats the N96, LG's new QWERTY, and Samgung's G810 in terms of consumer appeal. Very exciting week for SE, and there's still more to come!
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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:09
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there is still indeed a second wave of announcements

it is a week of BIG ideas for
www.secondmanonthemoon.blogspot.com
we are all works under progress
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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:12
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On 2008-02-11 20:06:05, abinge05 wrote:
Beats the N96, LG's new QWERTY, and Samgung's G810 in terms of consumer appeal. Very exciting week for SE, and there's still more to come!

Does it?, in which way exactly.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:13
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On 2008-02-11 20:03:33, Lemmin wrote:
Until I hear from someone who has used the phone that it has a built in GPS, and that they've seen it running, then I'm going to assume it requires an external GPS receiver


Indeed, we shall see.

However, ever since the first N95 FW update, it has been largely advertised as "only" having aGPS.

Another point is that the W760's specs page on SE.com doesn't even mention GPS. So I think it's too early to draw conclusions of any kind given it's just syntax at this point.

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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:20
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so this is what engadget says about the X1, after a short hands on
When we saw the XPERIA X1 announced yesterday we pretty much flipped our collective geeky lids, this handset is the stuff mobile dreams are made of. There is nothing to gripe about here and while our play date was short-lived -- and very supervised -- we did get a chance to peek at the rather unfinished UI, fit and finish, and did we mention the frickin' screen on this phone? Wah! It's like paper. This handset just can't come soon enough -- for those of you not listening earlier, that'll be late Q2 -- but until then you'll just have to live with pics.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:22
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On 2008-02-11 19:53:58, mweb6161 wrote:

On 2008-02-11 19:33:55, Coxy wrote:

On 2008-02-11 18:46:49, henkeee wrote:
I have problems seeing alot of "serious" users using the X1, I think they'll find this phone to have too much of a bling-bling character.


Don't forget the HTC "Touch" devices. They are Windows Mobile but include "iPhone" style features.

I think major functionality (Windows Mobile) coupled with great multimedia skills (Xperia) will result in an awesome device.

I really like this sort of package in my Touch Dual.


Quite right Coxy, this is a great device for sure, but TBH it is a HTC device with an SE badge stuck on the front



I'm not sure what you mean by that. HTC made Treos for Palm and many other phones for various companies before selling there own branded phones-did anyone ever call a Treo an HTC device? This is not a TyTNII rebranded by SE with some new software on it. The X1 is an entirely new phone designed by SE and manufactured for them by HTC (perhaps). Many companies, including Apple and Dell, use contractors to manufacture their products based on their own specifications. Does that mean that your PowerBook is actually a Quanta? No, of course not, so why would you make such a blatantly untrue statement here?

If SE chooses to let HTC use their own production criteria and tolerances when manufacturing the X1 then that is their own fault and they will have to live with the consequences. However, if they treat HTC like the contract manufacturer they are, then they will impose their own standards and tolerances on this phone which HTC must match. Don't forget, HTC makes their phones the way they do not because they are incapable of making them better but because that is the decision they made to balance cost and profits. If someone else is paying them to make the phones then they are obligated to meet those standards.

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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:29
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The HW is all HTC, that's a plus in my book, smart move by SE to get HTC to do all the hard work and allow themselves to take all the plaudits.
Come on, an SE with WM on board, hardly takes hercule poirot to suss out it's origins!!
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On 2008-02-11 20:12:08, mweb6161 wrote:

On 2008-02-11 20:06:05, abinge05 wrote:
Beats the N96, LG's new QWERTY, and Samgung's G810 in terms of consumer appeal. Very exciting week for SE, and there's still more to come!

Does it?, in which way exactly.

I should have specified, I'm thinking in terms of NA consumer appeal. People don't care about auto focus or have a clue what terms like HSUPA stand for. All that matters here is if it has a touch screen, QWERTY keyboard, and looks good (you should see how many people have that Venus, and they're SO proud of it). SE has stated that they will be marketing the X1 more heavily in NA than previous SE devices, so they are going to sell a ton of these. The only problem is that people will shy away from it when they find out it can't run iTunes (yes, people have asked me if iTunes will work on it when I told them about the X1 yesterday). Now that I think of it it's hard for the X1 not to beat its competitors in NA since those other phones will probably never make it over here, except for the LG.
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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:40
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I am looking at this X1 more and ...hmmm.. don't know what to say.
I mean the nice animation that SE was showing is fine but I am afraid that nehind that, 1 or 2 menus deeper the WM6 user interface is there....

And oh boy....WM6 UI sucks so much these days.
I have a Fujitsu Siemens Loox N560 with a VGA display which is a beauty...for 2006...but now it is 2008 and I am afraid about that behind the nice animations the shitty WM6 UI will be seen.
I've seen already the "Start" button in the pictures taken by esato which is bad bad. No one should use that WM6 UI anymore...it is simply obsolete.
Look at HTC...they built the startup screen on top of WM6 one...because the WM6 is simply ugly
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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:42
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What are the small, wide, dark spaces on both sided of the phone??? Stereo Speaker may be???

PK, can you please answer???
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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:55
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by the look of these pics, is there no fastport?
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Posted: 2008-02-11 20:57
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On 2008-02-11 20:55:00, willo wrote:
by the look of these pics, is there no fastport?


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