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NightBlade
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On 2008-06-04 20:51:04, Dogmann wrote:
As far as techie consumers the only ones really interested in the X1 are SE fans
Totally NOT true. |
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iwantfatty
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haha fair enough, didnt know you lived in iphone town. But the demand has only just started now that there pulling them from stores due to 3G... I feel were going a bit off topic though |
Dogmann
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@WhyBe
The interest in this thread on a pro SE forum is not even in the hundreds so is hardly going to make a big impact on sales. As for all those that you have shown pictures of the device have you told them it will be $1,100 plus?
If you really think the majority are like you that will wait before upgrading and then take a non subsidized device you are just wrong. Prestige or not most people are far more careful with their hard earned $$$'s and as HTC has both Network support and better market presence in the US it would be quite remarkable for the X1 to sell more than HTC's offering.
As i have said before once it is released we will see just how well the X1 does but until then it's pointless just speculation isn't it.
@Nightblade
Yet another truly stunning and insightful post and just what do you base that on? as most WM users are used to HTC or the branded versions not SE with it's first WM product. No where near as many people love SE or think they are brilliant as you seem to think as otherwise SE wouldn't of slipped to 5th now would they?
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iwantfatty
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I 100% agree with Dogmann. There is no way the phone could be worth that amount of money to more than a select few obsessive SE fans. The panel interface cannot really be that great, I have not been very convinced by what I have seen so far. It can’t be more than a show-off piece, or am I missing the point |
WhyBe
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On 2008-06-04 21:52:22, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe
As for all those that you have shown pictures of the device have you told them it will be $1,100 plus?
Yes
If you really think the majority are like you that will wait before upgrading and then take a non subsidized device you are just wrong. Prestige or not most people are far more careful with their hard earned $$$'s and as HTC has both Network support and better market presence in the US it would be quite remarkable for the X1 to sell more than HTC's offering.
SE has network support too. The are sold by AT&T. I don't know if they'll sell the X1 though.
As i have said before once it is released we will see just how well the X1 does but until then it's pointless just speculation isn't it.
This whole thread is, isn't it.   |
WhyBe
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On 2008-06-04 22:02:18, iwantfatty wrote:
I 100% agree with Dogmann. There is no way the phone could be worth that amount of money to more than a select few obsessive SE fans. The panel interface cannot really be that great, I have not been very convinced by what I have seen so far. It can’t be more than a show-off piece, or am I missing the point
You answered your own question
You should study the specs and preview vids a bit more. Check out the BengalBoy review, it's really informative. |
Dogmann
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@WhyBe
AT&T sell the Tilt which is their own branded version of the HTC TyTN2 do you really think they will wait longer for the X1?. Rather then sell their own branded version earlier and make more money from it? really you think that is going to happen with not just AT&T but all the other Networks as well as i seriously doubt that is what will happen.
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iwantfatty
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Well a $1100 dollars for something to show friends a couple of times, if anything the iphone interface is still way ahead or what’s coming from the X1 |
WhyBe
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On 2008-06-04 22:11:16, iwantfatty wrote:
Well a $1100 dollars for something to show friends a couple of times, if anything the iphone interface is still way ahead or what’s coming from the X1
Well, we don't know for sure do we? |
WhyBe
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On 2008-06-04 22:06:56, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe
AT&T sell the Tilt which is their own branded version of the HTC TyTN2 do you really think they will wait longer for the X1?. Rather then sell their own branded version earlier and make more money from it? really you think that is going to happen with not just AT&T but all the other Networks as well as i seriously doubt that is what will happen.
As far as I know only AT&T and T-Mobile are the only major GSM in US. As I said in my previous post, I don't know if AT&T will sell X1 directly. They have the iPhone and Tilt so it isn't out of the question. Besides, there's an AT&T panel
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iwantfatty
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Ok fair enough we don’t really have a good impression of the full capabilities of the interface or indeed the hardware, but is this super phone market really the right direction for SE?
As they are slipping behind with the market share what they need to do is carry on with what they were best at – high quality candybar handsets.
I think SE are a bit late to the game for these do everything touch screen phones, especially at the rate LG seems to be knocking them out |
WhyBe
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On 2008-06-04 22:31:13, iwantfatty wrote:
...but is this super phone market really the right direction for SE?
I think it is a good way to increase brand visibility.
As they are slipping behind with the market share what they need to do is carry on with what they were best at – high quality candybar handsets.
I think SE are a bit late to the game for these do everything touch screen phones...
Don't forget they started this whole super-smartphone thing with the P-series 
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iwantfatty
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Ok I see where you’re coming from, but if the X1 getting the SE brand out there, what’s it saying about SE? “I might look nice, but there’s not a chance in hell you can afford me”
because I think that’s something we all attribute to SE, we like and in some cases love their products but they charge over the odds for them, which will really come home to roost with something that’s pricey to start with e.g X1 |
WhyBe
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On 2008-06-04 22:51:39, iwantfatty wrote:
Ok I see where you’re coming from, but if the X1 getting the SE brand out there, what’s it saying about SE? “I might look nice, but there’s not a chance in hell you can afford me”
because I think that’s something we all attribute to SE, we like and in some cases love their products but they charge over the odds for them, which will really come home to roost with something that’s pricey to start with e.g X1
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VinnyP!
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On 2008-06-04 18:20:30, Dogmann wrote:
@askd
Although i do tend to watch a lot of stuff on my device and that's where up to 30fps VGA H.264 comes in.
The overhead on decoding is not as high as encoding. All the white paper says is that it is limited to RECORDING at 15fps VGA playback is H264 (X1i) it doesn't mention what limitations. Plenty of handsets can play back video at much higher specs than they can record at.
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