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BobaFett
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here are some wm 6.1 screenshots
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=167516
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max_wedge
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On 2008-03-26 19:01:54, Dogmann wrote:
But you know what your right WM is the most powerful and advanced OS on the planet and SE make the best and most reliable handsets and the X1 will sell millions and dominate the whole smartphone world NOT.
I hate to step in on someone else's argument, but I never read aksd anywhere saying he thinks SE make the best handsets or that X1 will dominate the world market. This is something you are ASSUMING simply because aksd is arguing some of the benefits of the WM platform.
Please, your title as Best Debater is a joke if you persist on drawing such weak assumptions. Let's keep this thread interesting and not argumentative? So far we've been having a good old time and it would be a shame to descend into recriminations.
We can argue points of logic without making baseless assumptions about fanboyism that just inflame matters.
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max_wedge
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Thank you boba, let's get on with this thread before it's locked 
Those screenshots seem top show a more finger friendly interface in WM6.1. This will give some credence to the X1 panels interface. Once you dig down into Windows proper you won't have to pull out the stylus so much.
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aksd
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On 2008-03-27 02:38:55, max_wedge wrote:
Thank you boba, let's get on with this thread before it's locked
Those screenshots seem top show a more finger friendly interface in WM6.1. This will give some credence to the X1 panels interface. Once you dig down into Windows proper you won't have to pull out the stylus so much.
Not to worry, I'm not going to bother replying to his pointless aggrivating comments . Would'nt want the thread to get locked.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that interface is only for the smartphone edition  . The Professional edition which is to be used in the X1 has an identical UI to that of WM6.0 except with a few more apps. I have no idea why the wanted to revamp the smartphone UI and not the touch screen one which is aimed at the higher end of the market.
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max_wedge
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I'm not sure, but imho the smartphone UI does need touching up.
The icons in the various screens look bigger which would suit a touchscreen just as well for finger input though. It would be good to have a "classic" option - to turn of WM6.1 UI enhancements, ala the setting in Windows XP that turns off the XP gloss and gives you an Interface identical to Win2k.
One of the disadvantages in terms of touch UI in the 3rd party finger touch shells, for example PointUI, is it's not really a shell but just a fancy third part menu system. It's good but breaks down as soon as you open a WM program or OS utility.
Maybe TouchFLO is a more complete shell replacement, has anyone tried it?
And I wonder if there is any chance X1 will feature it underneath the Panels main screen (if that is, it's a full shell)?
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BoyBawang
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The best Analogy I learned from aksd
Windows Mobile = Democracy
Symbian = Communism
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iqtidar
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CAN WE STOP THIS WM CRAP AND CONTINUE DISCUSSING THE X1 PLEASE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! |
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On 2008-03-27 10:50:05, iqtidar wrote:
CAN WE STOP THIS WM CRAP AND CONTINUE DISCUSSING THE X1 PLEASE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
The X1 is Windows Mobile, crap or not (I say not). Better get used to it.
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aksd
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On 2008-03-27 07:31:34, BoyBawang wrote:
The best Analogy I learned from aksd
Windows Mobile = Democracy
Symbian = Communism
LOL! now that sounds quite stupid does'nt it . I compared the two as Symbian restricts your freedom, not a perfect comparison though, but it does seem like Symbian tells us whats good for us and whats not. Freedom is when its up to us to decide whats good for us and whats not .
Also after several lenghty posts, is that all you've learnt , now I'm disappointed, what a waste of time those lengthy posts were
On 2008-03-27 05:47:28, max_wedge wrote:
One of the disadvantages in terms of touch UI in the 3rd party finger touch shells, for example PointUI, is it's not really a shell but just a fancy third part menu system. It's good but breaks down as soon as you open a WM program or OS utility.
Maybe TouchFLO is a more complete shell replacement, has anyone tried it?
And I wonder if there is any chance X1 will feature it underneath the Panels main screen (if that is, it's a full shell)?
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Max,
Yes PointUI and the others are just applications, but I've written a tiny script which returns to the Point UI screen if you by chance go to the today screen, I hope you get what I mena, so when the WM today screen appears it is automatically replaced with the Point UI today screen.
TouchFLo is not a shell replacemnt, its just a enhanced scrolling function, if you place your finger on the screen and push up it automatically scrolls, no change in the UI of the phone. You can find a consumer verison of this here http://www.ftouchsl.com/
I think the X1 will have TouchFlo but nothing more than that, you know what a pain it is to modify bits of the shell, the SDK would need reworking then if you want new apps to replicate this change.
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iqtidar
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On 2008-03-27 11:03:25, Boinng wrote:
On 2008-03-27 10:50:05, iqtidar wrote:
CAN WE STOP THIS WM CRAP AND CONTINUE DISCUSSING THE X1 PLEASE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
The X1 is Windows Mobile, crap or not (I say not). Better get used to it.
u see, u dont understand. i was saying can we stop talking bout windows mobile. didnt call it crap. crap refers to windows mobile vs symbian discussion. and continue with x1. |
mib1800
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I am just wondering whether HTC Cruise will give the X1 a run for its moeny.
Cruise is available now and there is no need to wait for eons (in mobile time). Would the cruise be a more viable option if you are looking for a WM (provided a keyboard is not critical). Cruise QVGA screen maybe a downer but on the flipside it will have no problem running 3rd party apps. X1 WVGA screen may pose a problem and what's the point of a WM 3rd party apps cannot run.
Personally, I think the Cruise looks nicer than X1. From gsmarena.com review the cam is comparable to K800 and it records video at mpeg4 QVGA 30fps. I doubt X1 vga 30fps 3gpp video rec will be much better than cruise.
So may I ask those waiting for X1, is it not more prudent to get the Cruise now instead. And you will definitely save a bundle of money at the same time. |
aksd
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@mib
No it wont, the TOuch Crusie is another of HTC's crippled series, no 3D drivers.
The reason the X1 seems a good buy is because of the bigger screen, the 3D drivers and an updated processor. THe Crusie lacks all this, its identical to the TyTn2 except for the keypad and the Cruise has a Radio.
In my opinion with the X1 announced it would'nt be very logical to buy the Cruise unless you're not interested in a power device.
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mib1800
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if X1 can have the 3d drivers, would'nt the cruise also have them in the updates? In terms of area, I think the X1 screen is only a bit bigger but of course resolution is another thing.
I assume by the time X1 comes out, Cruise maybe just 1/2 the price of X1 which would make it a more compelling buy. The only "real " spec advantage of the X1 is the WVGA screen.
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aksd
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HTC have announced they wont be releasing the drivers. So both devices target a bit different type of buyer. If the camera in the X1 is a SE one it should be far better than the HTC one thats quite pointless, no LED as well and whites are burnt out completely.
If somebody wants a powerful WM phone they'd got for the X1 and if they wanted a WM phone with reasonable specs they;d go Cruise.
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