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N82 vs k850.......(some new good pics [800 x 600]) |
Radiux399
Joined: Sep 06, 2007
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On 2008-02-06 12:16:57, davidsic wrote:
Point and shoot, no settings at all, pictures resized the same way with vso image resizer.
With such small size pics, you can't differentiate anything except for maybe color variation. Please post the full 5MP images for comparison. |
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davidsic
Joined: May 30, 2004
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From: Belgium
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Yes i know...the purple fringing...exept that the K850i is very good in daylight.
There is another problem with N82, there's a blurry place on the left of the pictures on most N82.
2 others shots in fully auto mode on both phone.
N82
K850i
Real size 5mp
N82
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5168/07022008124ai7.jpg
K850i
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7510/dsc07233ru0.jpg
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Dupet
Joined: Nov 15, 2007
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thanks for posting those pictures Davidsic. Did you turn off the image stabilizer on the K850? i cant remember if its on by detault, but it can take away some of the detail.
since you were there, which do you think has more accurate colours? the second photo looks a little purplish to me. specially on the roofs of the houses. |
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Joined: Dec 29, 2007
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In n82 full size you cant see the writing on the white antenna and the green grass in front the gate is blurry.
In this test wich is k850 fw?
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fatamon
Joined: Feb 07, 2008
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Do you know if there's any modded cam driver for n82?
I must admit that I'm not overly satisfied with the pic quality of n82.
And why does nokia use such an agressive compression algorithm?
Some of my k790i shots have larger filesize than n82 :S |
davidsic
Joined: May 30, 2004
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From: Belgium
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stabilizer off and fw r1ca037
Maybe colours too warm (a bit yellow) with the N82 and too cold with K850i.
Blurry on the left with the nokia and purple fringing with K850i. |
*Jojo*
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@david - When you TOOk that shot . . . what's the REAL color of the house  Pink or Yellow How come either of the TWO (K850/N82) does NOT show the REAL color of the object taken . . . .
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Radiux399
Joined: Sep 06, 2007
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From what I can tell from your full sized images:
1.) N82 has too much noise reduction. Areas of fine details (such as grass, leaves, bushes, tiles on the roof, etc) become a blurry smear. Also, jpeg compression is noticeable here. K850i is showing more overall detail.
2.) K850i shows too much noise, especially between contrasting areas of light and dark or between different colors. Too much purple fringing.
3.) Neither phones colors appear to be true to life, but the N82's are more "pleasing" to the eyes, at least to me. The K850's is simply too cold and feels somewhat lifeless.
I'd guess to say that the biggest reason the N95/82's shots are rated higher is simply because of the colors, which is the first thing a person perceives when comparing pictures. If the colors are off, no amount of extra sharpness or clearness will make the picture more pleasing to the eyes. |
fatamon
Joined: Feb 07, 2008
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I don't think n82 is that good. I must admit I'm a bit disappointed. Sometimes my old k790i take better pictures, honestly 
Is there any way to mod the cam drivers, so that it doesn't compress the pictures that much? |
Dupet
Joined: Nov 15, 2007
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I finally had time to take some photos around the house using both phones. The angles might be slightly different between the phones, but they’re all focused in the same area and held at the same distance. Make of them as you will. I used all the default settings on both phones. The only thing I changed on them was the image quality setting, which I switched to best/high.
From these pictures, I’ve found that the n82 compresses photos far too much. You can see jpeg artifacts in the n82 images, and they’re about half the file size of the k850’s photos.
Its possible that I have a defective k850, but I find its colours to be really off. The bricks are an orange colour, but the k850 makes them look red.
The k850 has 037 fw
k850
n82
k850
n82
k850
n82
k850
n82
k850
n82
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Janbobejan
Joined: Jan 24, 2008
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From: Southern Africa
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You should not forget - if the pics are printed in in the 6x4 format (by far the most popular) the decrease in resolution is not noticed at all (because of the phisical compression), while the 'wrong' color will be very visible ! ! ! And, to add insult to the injury, not even the resolution is always better in the k850i. SE got this one teribly wrong and that shows in the number of devices sold  Furthermore, we are only a handfull of people posting/reading this tread, the vast majority (GSMARENA) 'saw' this comparission quite differently (actually there was not much to compare 'first vs last') .I remember the day when some of you chaps use to moan about Nokia not having a 'real' flash - now that they have the most powerfull flash by far, no one want's to even compare that side of things. As much as I hate the Bastards, they are where they are because the things they did and do and the same reasoning applies to SE
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MEGAGHOST
Joined: Sep 05, 2007
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From: SaudiArabia
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my new n82:
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Dupet
Joined: Nov 15, 2007
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do you have a k850 to compare your pictures to? |
n4d3r
Joined: Nov 04, 2007
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as some of my might know my k850 is gone. Not that i got rid of it, but it got lost when i sent it for repair. I now own the N82.
I have a few shots from my k850 (037) saved on my computer so i tried to take the same pics with the n82 and here are the results. You be the judge.
k850
n82
k850
n82
k850(document mode)
n82
k850
n82
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plankgatan
Joined: May 20, 2007
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From: Sweden fur alle
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On 2008-03-09 06:40:27, n4d3r wrote:
as some of my might know my k850 is gone. Not that i got rid of it, but it got lost when i sent it for repair. I now own the N82.
I have a few shots from my k850 (037) saved on my computer so i tried to take the same pics with the n82 and here are the results. You be the judge.
k850
n82
k850
n82
k850 looks better  ... nice pics by the way
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