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SE w960 i or HTC tytn ll ? |
benjijk Joined: Oct 23, 2007 Posts: 64 PM |
On 2007-12-13 11:19:02, ares wrote:
UIQ devices are RAM intensive mainly, on other had WM devices are processor intensive...
Its well known symbian devices do not need such high processor speeds, and that whay they can get advantages in terms of battery consumption
Anyone compared a n95 (latest fw) with the Tytn II??? The n95 processor is slower in terms of clock speed, but AFAIK its really fast, and might be as fast as the tytn
[ This Message was edited by: ares on 2007-12-13 10:24 ]
@ ares
sorry, can't agree with the comparison between N95 and TytnII. Actually my friend's N95 closely stands next to the p1 and my HTC tmobile MDA. To say that WM applications are processor intensive is unsubstantiated. I don't see why an application on WM would need an extra 2000 lines of code to run on a WM device as compared to a Symbian device. They're all just about the same. A lot of the WM devices actually get decent battery life, also proof that they're not processor intensive.
I've tried the p1, n95 and HTC mda side by side. The MDA still blows the other two out with an old 195mhz processor. I have tomtom 6 on my p1. Takes about 12-14 seconds to load. It took a little less than 5 seconds on the TytnII in the video I originally linked to on Youtube. http://youtube.com/watch?v=zyk0TR6pUPA
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ares Joined: Dec 11, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Coimbra, Portugal PM |
its obvious the tytn II is faster...no need for videos...but about the MDA, i say "BS"...its for that that you need videos...
regarding symbian vs wm, here´s an interesting article
http://mobile.antonypranata.com/?p=9
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benjijk Joined: Oct 23, 2007 Posts: 64 PM |
Can someone pls. post videos of common applications on the N95 being loaded so we can look at the time it takes? And I'm talking from scratch, after closing all running applications. Maybe you can include that in the video, something like the 'end all applications' feature on the P1.In the meanwhile, I'll work on putting up some videos of the p1 vs the HTC Tmob MDA. By common applications, I mean stuff like Messaging, Web browser, Calendar, Contacts, Media player, maybe FM Radio and camera. (I just have to wait till my gf is done using her MDA for the day.) |
masseur Joined: Jan 03, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Sydney, London PM |
I thought this was about "SE w960 i or HTC tytn ll ?"
As I mentioned earlier, why does N95 have to come into so many threads on Esato? I can't see any reference to the OP expressing a desire for one
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koto Joined: Sep 18, 2006 Posts: > 500 PM |
I am a strict business user and P1 fulfills all my needs in that respect, so IMO its perfect business phone. |
jakontil Joined: Jun 28, 2004 Posts: > 500 From: Changi, Chatswood, Cikarang PM |
strange things is that when i tried to open a excel doc, TYTN II takes few seconds whilst P1 almost as immediate, it's a 1MB excel file |
Foxhunter Joined: Sep 17, 2003 Posts: 318 PM |
When I asked about wheter I should choose the P1i or the Tytn 2 I didn't think about speed - I have a P900 now so I guess they both will be very much faster...
I just asked if the Tytn 2 really will be 400$ better than the P1i - and again the phone part of a mobilephone is important to me - will the Tytn 2 go down on this as previous HTCs...?
For some reason I still think of the Tytn 2 as being a 1st generation PPc with all in it GPS etc. but the P1i is a well tested phone since it's "build on" the know how of the P990i and the M600...?
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masseur Joined: Jan 03, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Sydney, London PM |
but TytN II is built upon the success of the original TyTN which was built upon the success of the k-jam, which was built upon the success of the jam which... well you get the picture.
the GPS has minimal impact on the o/s as it is just a 3rd party chip which is accessed via a serial port
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AbuBasim Joined: Nov 04, 2005 Posts: > 500 PM |
On 2007-12-13 13:47:08, masseur wrote:
the GPS has minimal impact on the o/s as it is just a 3rd party chip which is accessed via a serial port
The chipset used in the original TyTN does also support GPS. But HTC chose not to implement this. The same chipset is used in the HTC Trinity for which HTC just had to release an update ROM which activated the GPS. The TyTN was never meant to have an active GPS so it is missing the antenna and its supporting circuitry. |
Foxhunter Joined: Sep 17, 2003 Posts: 318 PM |
So in your eyes the Tytn 2 is 400 $ better than the P1i? |
isadouglas Joined: Apr 18, 2003 Posts: 31 From: Boca Raton PM |
P1 has a dull design...Im just bored with symbian and want to give windows another try |
701 Joined: Nov 26, 2002 Posts: > 500 From: Romania PM, WWW
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On 2007-12-13 14:04:49, Foxhunter wrote:
So in your eyes the Tytn 2 is 400 $ better than the P1i?
Not from my point of view.
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Anil Gidwani Joined: Oct 06, 2004 Posts: 69 PM |
No question the TyTn II is $400 better than the P1i. In fact, it's $575 better than the P1i (the loss of $175 I had to incur in selling the P1i).
That said, it all depends on what you want. If your needs are fewer, and you're lucky to get a unit that doesn't develop hardware problems, or don't mind not having too much in the way of software applications that work, the P1i is clearly good value for money. But it is visibly a hastily put together product, as even just the skimpy manual that comes with it indicates.
If you want a solid phone, fast, efficient, stable, ergonomically pleasing, with tons of software that works, and that you can safely use for the next two to three years, I'd say the TyTn II is undeniably the way to go. I feel as pleased as punch owning the TyTn II as I did when I held the P900 in my hands back in 2004.
P.S. My apologies to all SE fans out here if I have hurt any feelings. |
koto Joined: Sep 18, 2006 Posts: > 500 PM |
From my own experience I would say:
If you want a solid phone, fast, efficient, stable, ergonomically extremely pleasing, multitasking beast, with lot of very good and professional software that works I'd say the P1 (W960) is undeniably one of the options.
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senninha Joined: Jan 05, 2003 Posts: > 500 PM |
well, WM definitely has a lot of power but it does come at a price (and not just in monetary terms, because WM devices cost a lot more). whether or not it's the right system for you, only you can decide. but to help you make the decision, you can take a look at this article which seems pretty objective, especially because MS is being pretty frank about its pros and cons.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/wh[....]are-going-to-fix-it-333536.php |
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