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ares
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Posted: 2007-12-10 12:35
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Well...i was making a comparation, and your photos just prove my point...the P1 seems clearly less bulky...and besides that in a phone, 50g are really noticeable

you may feel the Tytn II is not bulky (i disagree, even the P1 is a bit bulky), i respect that, but compared with the P1/w960, it does feel bulky

This has nothing to do with the other specs, were i know the Tytn II has advantage (in most)

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Posted: 2007-12-10 16:43
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I do not think is bulky compare with other phones, I trade bulky for big screen anytime...plus I keep my phone in my handbag...
I decided to go for HTC tytn after all my research, I liked the design with big time display, gps, touchscreen, usb etc, now Im looking for a good price in USA.
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Posted: 2007-12-11 10:45
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Clearly from the pictures and the specs there's not much of a difference but in real life, I have to tell you I felt it. I mean, my hand almost fell to the floor when my friend gave it to me! Wow! 50 grams means a lot when compared to my P1i.
I liked it as I said...but for the moment my P1i has to work for the money I paid. Which brings me top another point: I paid 340 euros for mine while the price for Tytn 2 here is close to 680 euros. That made the difference. Masseur knows as I PM'ed him about the TYTN2. So I went for P1i.
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Posted: 2007-12-11 11:04
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I have to say, I'd be lying if I said I didn't notice the weight of the Tytn II immediately after my svelte M600i (itself lighter and smaller than the W960i), but that faded after a couple of days. It still fits in my pocket fine, and feels comfortable in the hand or to ear, and that's really all I need from any phone. If you want something tiny and lightweight, don't go for a full-featured smartphone!

On price - there are some great deals to be had on the network branded versions of the Tytn II (Vario III, V1615, Tilt, Stellar, Orange Tytn II) and they're all easily debrandable to the "stock" HTC version. I paid Vodafone £50 for mine, to upgrade my £20pm contract for another 12 months. For me, the P1 (exclusive to O2 in the UK) would have worked out quite a bit more expensive.

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Posted: 2007-12-11 11:09
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you lot really need to get into the gym before someone kicks sand in your face on the beach

50g? thats a small bar of chocolate... come on now, lets be serious
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Posted: 2007-12-11 12:10
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I really cant see what the discussion is about . How could anyone compare the TyTyn2 to the W960i, its like comaring apples and oranges . I had an M600i-Motorola ROKR E6- TyTYn2 and the TyTyn2 blows away anything in the market. As far as music goes using a free program called GSPlayer, the quality is amazing with bass boost, 3D surround, stereoewidening and Reverb etc....

Video playback is fine too as long as the video is limited to 320*240 and about 25fps and less than 500bps. Almost the same specs as those playable on my M600i.

The cam is better than a lot of cam phones I've used, over exposure is an issue, I keep my exposure at -2 all the time. JPEG compression algorithms are not too good either. But it is good enough for those quick shots and I use it to take macro pics instead of my Canon EOS 400d(I mainly do wildlife so have'nt bothered investing in a macro lens ).

In India we have no service support for the TyTYn2, I got it from SIngapore and even if I were to make a descision to buy the phone again, I'd do it because using it is such an amazing experience(Used all OS phones till date from S60, S603rd Edition, UIQ, EZX(Linux), iPhone) I dont think I'll ever leave Windows mobile. This is the first time in my life a phone has'nt restarted on me, maye second I dont think my E6 restarted either.

Generally speaking, people who are negative towards the phone dont own one .
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Posted: 2007-12-11 12:20
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@isadouglas
I would suggest HTyc Tynt2 with my eyes closed ,its quadband phone means u can use it anywhere in the world,hsdpa compared to 3g,
And 400mhz qualcomm processor compared mere 220 mhz processor of w960,a 2,8 inch screen to 2.6 inch of 960,gps vs no gps,wifi 802.11b/g vs 802.11b,Full qwerty keyboard.And much better build quality unlike the plasticy w960,So for all this adavantages u can spare a little 50g of weight
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Posted: 2007-12-12 02:29
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Thanks ARUNVC, I placed my order today...!!! early xmas present...
can't wait!
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Posted: 2007-12-12 06:22
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On 2007-12-11 11:09:01, masseur wrote:
you lot really need to get into the gym before someone kicks sand in your face on the beach

50g? thats a small bar of chocolate... come on now, lets be serious



Thats more than 25 % extra weight.. and in days when every maker is trying to reduce each possible gram , 50 gram is heavy...

But when you look at all the extra features that TYTN II offers, I find this 50 gm so light...
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Posted: 2007-12-12 11:46
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On 2007-12-12 06:22:19, drgopoos wrote:

On 2007-12-11 11:09:01, masseur wrote:
you lot really need to get into the gym before someone kicks sand in your face on the beach

50g? thats a small bar of chocolate... come on now, lets be serious



Thats more than 25 % extra weight.. and in days when every maker is trying to reduce each possible gram , 50 gram is heavy...

But when you look at all the extra features that TYTN II offers, I find this 50 gm so light...

The heavier it is, the harder it will fall (when you drop it)! The difference between the old TyTN and the new TyTN II is only 14 grams but it feels more since the TyTN II is smaller!

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Posted: 2007-12-12 11:50
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so be careful and dont drop it! or keep it in a protective case if you are clumsy

accidents will happen with any phone and the damage inflicted can vary depending on how it hits the ground. Even light phones can suffer bad damage
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Posted: 2007-12-12 12:13
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On 2007-12-11 11:09:01, masseur wrote:
you lot really need to get into the gym before someone kicks sand in your face on the beach

50g? thats a small bar of chocolate... come on now, lets be serious



i am being serious...50g is nothing on a 200, 300g device...but 50g is noticeable on lighter phones...i clearly notice the difference from the P990 to the P1, has an example...
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Posted: 2007-12-12 12:31
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On 2007-12-12 12:13:45, ares wrote:
i am being serious...50g is nothing on a 200, 300g device...but 50g is noticeable on lighter phones...i clearly notice the difference from the P990 to the P1, has an example...


You notice the difference certainly, but that's as far as it goes. I think the point is that in long term use, it makes little or no difference - once you get used to any device, it's weight (unless REALLY excessive) ceases to be a factor.

I was previously used to the very lightweight M600i - lightest of all the UIQ3 phones to date - but a few days after getting the Tytn II, I stopped noticing the difference and just got on with using it. It goes in the same pocket as the M600i, gets used in just the same way, and in practice those extra few grams have had no impact at all.
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Posted: 2007-12-12 12:33
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fair enough. I'll say no more except that I have honestly never given it a thought
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Posted: 2007-12-12 12:41
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After using P1 I realised that there is no way I can go back to bulky phones as P900/P910/P990 again. I wandered about smaller screen but now I see what a pleasure is to use small and ligt phone and 2.6" screen is absolutely fine for browsing, office apps and ebooks. In that terms additional 50gr. and biger size is show stopper in my case. Pocket size is the greatest 'functionality' of my P1 followed with all other features. But thats just me.
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