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jalu
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Posted: 2002-12-13 20:37
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I checked out the Neonode website linked from another post - looks quiite good, I must admit.

It rates itself against the p800 and also the 3650i (I think thats the number, the one with the big thumb pad) and is smaller than both.

Does anyone have any information on the phone other than the website? The phone may be smaller than the p800 but the p800 website is infinitly better than that carp

Jalu
amagab
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Posted: 2002-12-13 20:46
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Neonode - entertainment phone
P800 - business phone

If Neonode only had Bluetooth I would consider a switch over.
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Posted: 2002-12-13 20:49
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@amagab

It doesn't have bluetooth? Bummer, I like my HBH :-/.

It does look reeeaaaallllly small though which is always a good thing... plus it doesn't have the p800 flip which looks to be a bit of a downer.

Is there lots more information anywhere, like a prelim review or are we stuck with what little information that site holds?

Jalu
Titanium
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Posted: 2002-12-13 21:43
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Jalu, a -LOT- has been said regarding P800 in the past year and it's all right here, on ESATO.
Try doing some research prior to starting another boring P800 comparison thread. You'll realize quickly that Neo-whatitsname-node vapourware isn't quite there yet. And if it ever does get there (good luck to them), you're also realize that it's just a kid's toy, limp and trivial.
It takes a bit more than a cute Flash webpage to create a state-of-the-art product in a league of P800.

In fact, let me say this - almighty Nokia can only wish to have had their logo above P800


lord
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Posted: 2002-12-13 21:45
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come on guys...
Neonode is a vaporware...
This is not realpictures, just project in plastic with a pseudo screen added...
You can see such picture in SE, Nokia or motorola prototypes...
I guess how a so little company can produce such devices with non standards components (LCD, Battery)

To my it's just a company which is looking for $$$
to develop a concept
jalu
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Posted: 2002-12-13 21:49
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@Titanium

Yeah sorry mate - should have made myself clearer. I wanted more information on the Neonode, *NOT* the p800

Like the other poster I'm concerned that although it looks muchly sweet, the Neonode is probably never gonna happen.

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jnorberg
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Posted: 2002-12-13 22:19
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The neonode n1 WILL happen... And IAM going to get one...

This post was posted from a T68i

amagab
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Posted: 2002-12-13 22:32
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lord> the Neonode might not be in mass production yet but it sure isn't vaporware. The Swedish press has been presented with fully functioning Neonodes.
geoffreyw
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Posted: 2002-12-13 22:50
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On 2002-12-13 22:32, amagab wrote:
lord> the Neonode might not be in mass production yet but it sure isn't vaporware. The Swedish press has been presented with fully functioning Neonodes.



Did the press by any chance publish any technical specs on it?
faca
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Posted: 2002-12-13 22:54
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Neonode is not vaporware, it's been under development for quite a long time now. It was shown on CeBIT, just like the P800 was, although not with so much hype. Here is an old link:

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=894

I'd say that the over-hyped P800 is in a lot of trouble, it has been delayed for almost half a year and now when it is finally about to be released, an even better device appears which will be released around Feb '03. It is smaller, lighter, has a 64 MB SD card bundled and will cost only around 500$ while P800 will go for 800-1000$. I'd say that P800 is history and so is SE. I don't know about you, but I'm really disappointed with this Sony and Ericsson merger, I expected a lot more. But, I guess that when you put two losers together they will still be losers no matter what they do...



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Titanium
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Posted: 2002-12-13 23:08
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@faca - what would this forum be without you.... I wonder.
I'm sure that folks at Neonode would agree with you calling United States of Sony a loser. Haha.
Or Ericsson for that matter that powers just about over 65 percent of ALL worldwide cell networks, including the one you use everyday to call your Mama.

Otrok.


faca
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Posted: 2002-12-13 23:19
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@Titanium: Tell your Mama to read and explain this to you:

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=15717&forum=2

Quote:

'Sony Ericsson, created last October from the loss-making units of telecoms equipment maker Ericsson and consumer electronics giant Sony, had initially planned to have the P800 model in shops in the third quarter. '

Notice that 'loss-making' part? It means they (Sony's and Ericsson's mobile phones divisions) were losing money - hence, they were losers. Why did you think they merged together in the first place?

Klinac.


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geoffreyw
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Posted: 2002-12-13 23:31
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How can we compare this phone to the P800 ( or any other phone for that matter) when we know almost nothing about it.
Is it dual band or tri band?
Does it have bluetooth?
What sort of customization features does it have? (ringtones, themes, etc)
I know it has MS os but apparently it has been customized so how will this affect compatibility with 3rd party software?
Voice control?
etc etc
lmi
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Posted: 2002-12-13 23:39
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Faca.... Why do I agree with you this time?
I guess people here are so blind with P800 that they can't see anything else.
Why for me Neonode N1 will be "the" phone!
1. P800 will be much more expensive
2. I don't really need (and most people don't) PDA intensive features. All I want is a calendar and full address book. Besides, Neonode will accept programs in C++ so... a lot of potencial!!
3. N1 is way much smaller!
4. I prefer N1 design (but of course again I must say you can't see anything else than P800....)
5. I don't know at this time if it has or not but I've lived without it this far...!
6. N1 has aproximately 50 times more colors!
7. Here in Portugal both will come out (expected) at the same time! I'll be testing both, but N1 will win in my view of things!

Bye bye! Keep your P800
geoffreyw
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Posted: 2002-12-13 23:47
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I would like to see the neonode next to the siemens SL55
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