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icaka
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Posted: 2007-12-11 21:07
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Look at Nokia 5610 and tell me its high-end. *rolls eyes*

Samsung U600 is far better choice than W910i, too.
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Posted: 2007-12-11 21:52
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im not sure what you mean but 5610 sure looks like a high end to me
with his 3.2 MP and AF not to mention the extremely good MP3 player 2.4" off-boundaries screen and how good the materials its made of its a tough-ass device!!
and im talking from experience (the UI is a bit better in performance and as a whole and the new switching button is just cool)
i actually thought about changing my W850i for one (but in the end i didn't as its still a very good device )
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Posted: 2007-12-11 23:33
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5610 is really good and is one of the best offers for the money out there, but is a mid-tier device, mid-high at most. Compare it to N82 which is a high-end device and you'll see the difference.
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Posted: 2007-12-11 23:43
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agree !!!! N-82 is getting really good reviews!!
nokia has a really good roster of high end devices and i hope SE will ease our pain soon with something worth waiting for just like the PSPhone shown in STUFF magazine to compete against N-81 and upcoming N-gage enabled devices and P5i to compete against the N-95 8gb / s60 touch UI /n-82 xenon flash!!!!!

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Posted: 2007-12-12 00:32
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Um, hello? OT much?
We're talking about SE here.
icaka
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Posted: 2007-12-12 00:39
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nneo SE chose another marketing focus and strategy and even if they haven't done that, they don't have the capacity and the necessary money, software and time for R&D to compete with recent Nokia, HTC, Samsung or Motorola offers in the high-end segment. So don't expect something groudnbreaking from them in the next two or three ears, but something which is a little bit behind the competition in terms of hardware, but still carrying the typical characteristics of SE, which we all like.
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Posted: 2007-12-12 09:47
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On 2007-12-12 00:39:47, icaka wrote:
.......... they don't have the capacity and the necessary money, software and time for R&D to compete with recent Nokia, HTC, Samsung or Motorola offers in the high-end segment.

Unless you can back up this with facts then it means nothing. Back on topic please.



[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2007-12-12 08:48 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-12 18:55
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z660

http://justamp.blogspot.com/2007/12/sony-ericsson-z660-rumor.html
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micks2005
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Posted: 2007-12-13 07:53
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Very Interesting Article with rgds to SE :

Handsets equipped with 5-megapixel zoom lenses may become mainstream in the camera handset market in one to two years, says the Digitimes referring to sources in Taiwan’s optical lenses industry. Currently camera phones with 1.3-megapixel or 2-megapixel (rarely 3.2-megapixel) non-zoom lenses are very popular. 5-megapixel 3x zoom camera phones have already come to the market, Samsung Electronics and Sony Ericsson introduced such phones.

According to the Photonics Industry and Technology Development Association (PIDA), there are two key ways of development for phone camera lenses: precision-molded aspherical glass single lens units or units made of multiple plastic lenses. The second lens type can zoom and is suitable for resolutions of 5 megapixels or more.

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Posted: 2007-12-13 09:17
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^^Hey thanks for that. Its good to know what we can expect as far as imaging goes.

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Posted: 2007-12-13 09:33
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Looks like 5 Mega-pixel or more camera phone with 3x Optical Zoom has been released by Sony Ericsson.

I guess they're adding the final touches. Looks like in Feb or perhaps Jan, we would see a 5 mega pixel or greater with 3x Optical Zoom.

For it's a sure-shot, ... a Cyber-shot.

Cheers ...
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Posted: 2007-12-13 10:04
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I'm guessing two or three new handsets in February and one early January. Last year there were handsets announced in each month of Q1.



BTW: Do you have a link to that article? Thanks.



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Posted: 2007-12-13 12:17
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Update:

Sony Ericsson revising its strategy after lower than expected sales of its low end phones for 2007/2008.

"Sony Ericsson originally planned to push low-cost (under 100 Euro) handsets in 2007-2008. However, as the sales were below expectations, the company is revising its products orientation and channel strategy, according to the sources. "


source: Digitimes Telecom
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Posted: 2007-12-13 12:43
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Sony Ericsson revising its strategy after lower than expected sales of its low end phones for 2007/2008.


yes, Se low end offering are very very poor and cheap build,I doubt why dont they bring out something simple and stunning but easy to use like nokia 6300.And even in high end they have disappointed it.At least they shld hv put a decent 5mp cam into w960,which would have made it somewht competior to N95.With Nokia's n91 sucessor in for release in q1 08,which will feature lot more extras and buzz in music with noise canecellation and dedicated audio chip and high quality headphones,sales of w960 has may go down.SE is loosing and loosing the game by huge margin,when will thery learn.And no announcement for this year is another disappoinment for all of us.IF se had released P5 and maria they could have bought the hopes back.And they need to change their strategy for sure.
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Posted: 2007-12-13 13:12
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Hi all,

Have a problem.

In file ProductInfo.ini (taken from P1i) located in Z:[slash]resource[slash]apps is this:

// EDeviceFamilyRev
// 0=Hermione (P990)
// 1=Lily (M600)
// 2=Nina (W950)
// 3=Lizy
// 4=Elena
// 5=Maria
7=4

well P1i is Elena, one of this must be W960i, think one must be M610i (stoped), can anybody help? thx

(use X-plore to see drive Z)

From 1st post of this topic:

# Maria (W980i)
High end candybar. A direct competitor to the iPhone and may have a PSP-style interface (similar to K850/W910 Media intefaces). It will have a d-pad, and six buttons and no keypad, with a touchscreen for most functions including built in GPS. Similarly or more highly spec'd than the W960i. Said to be announced on November 15th and released in Q12008.

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