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razec
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Posted: 2007-11-03 23:45
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On 2007-11-03 14:11:34, AbuBasim wrote:
The N95 is using a Micron Technology MT9P001 1/2.5" CMOS sensor: source.
The spec sheet for this sensor is here.



So GSMArena is wrong to conclude that K850 has smaller sensor than N95. now i'm more convinced that without that JPEG compression + NR + saturation boosting N95 pictures would look worse than K850 i just can't imagine that a Sony Cybershot W-series camera has only 1/1.8" CCD sensor yet ithas more megapixels and better image quality than imobile's. yeah i know it's a mobile phone, but i wanted to pinpoint the advantage that can be brought by an experienced manufacturer of cameras. better implementation of lens, better algorithm, better type of lens used - all of those will make K850 better than 902 if Sony have been the one to design K850 camera before
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Posted: 2007-11-04 04:47
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On 2007-11-03 23:45:35, razec wrote:
So GSMArena is wrong to conclude that K850 has smaller sensor than N95.

They are correct actually. K850i's sensor is smaller:

N95: 1 / 2.5 inch
K850i: 1 / 2.8 inch

DPreview.com has a page explaining sensor sizes here.


i just can't imagine that a Sony Cybershot W-series camera has only 1/1.8" CCD sensor yet ithas more megapixels and better image quality than imobile's.

Again, 1/1.8" is larger than 1/2.5" . . .

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Posted: 2007-11-04 09:52
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@razec

its a fraction,the numerator is 1 and the bigger the denominator the smaller it is.
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Posted: 2007-11-04 12:16
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@AbuBasim Thank you for the info about the sensor, you won't mind if I use it in my explanation of i-mobile 902 if someone asks me?

Here are some shoots I took the day before yesterday:



























Last two shoots were taken in normal mode, not in night mode, so I really like the quality.


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Posted: 2007-11-04 14:32
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I've seen on another forum,someone who made a HDR image using the i-mobile 902.

any idea how to do it? and which softwares do I need to have on my computer?
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Posted: 2007-11-04 14:55
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On 2007-11-04 12:16:53, SaLiH wrote:
@AbuBasim Thank you for the info about the sensor, you won't mind if I use it in my explanation of i-mobile 902 if someone asks me?

Not at all!
Here are the markings on the underside of the chip package (photo treated to enhance contrast of the etching):


Excellent pictures you posted SaLiH. You will be missed if you sell your phone.

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Posted: 2007-11-04 15:06
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@salih

i love your fourth picture, looks like clark kent moving with super speed

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Posted: 2007-11-04 17:04
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@AbuBasim - Thank you bro, I'm still not sure if I should sell my 902. Although, 10 days ago my 902, started to freeze sometimes, and that's another thing that is making me sell my 902. It freezes and I have to remove the battery, to make it work again.
I've taken loads of photos already, and I'm planing to take more, so I will be visiting this thread even if I sell my 902.
Now I have a dilemma which phone to buy next, I can't decide between W810, K800, K810, and maybe K550 or W610, but that's my last choice because the camera lens is smaller than K750/W800/W810/W900/P990 lens.

@sasha-SE - Thanks, that's because of the long exposure (4 seconds) in night mode. So people turn like that, like they have superman powers.

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Posted: 2007-11-04 20:50
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On 2007-11-04 17:04:09, SaLiH wrote:
Although, 10 days ago my 902, started to freeze sometimes, and that's another thing that is making me sell my 902. It freezes and I have to remove the battery, to make it work again.

I've had the freezing bug with both 902s I have owned. Sometimes it freezes when sending SMS. It's just one of those bugs and it's a shame that SAMART doesn't provide updates like SE. Then again, for me this happens maybe a couple of times per week so it's not a big issue for me.

I had one strange problem last week where the phone would vibrate whenever it was playing any sounds, for example when pushing any button. I couldn't get this to go away by switching on and off. Finally I tried switching off and then taking out the battery for about an hour before putting it back in again and switching on. After that it was gone! Maybe something for you to try as a last thing for your USB problem?
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Posted: 2007-11-05 15:20
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AbuBasim - Thanks for the advice, I'll try that. maybe it will indeed fix my USB issue. I realized that the problem with freezing is a bug, because I've seen niverin on HWZ forum, saying he's phone has it too. I think that only digdub said that it happend to him only once, and he bought his phone a year or even more ago. It is a shame that SAMART doesn't have firmware upgrades so we can fix this.

Anyway here are some shoots:





















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Posted: 2007-11-07 17:37
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Few, shots, I took today when I went to the new coffe/cake shop that has just opened in my town, and one shot of the river.

I forgot to put EVO 0, so these coffe shop photos are a bit dark because camera was set to EVO -03



















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Posted: 2007-11-08 21:10
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I know I'm flooding you with photos, but I'm selling my phone tomorrow or on Monday, so I want to send some photos before I sell it.

Some shots from today:










Nokia 3310->Nokia 2100->Nokia 3100->Sony Ericsson K700i->Sony Ericsson K750i->i-mobile 902->Sony Ericsson K800i->Sony Ericsson T650i->Sony Ericsson C901->Sony Ericsson Elm->iPhone 3GS->iPhone 4s->iPhone 5->iPhone 5s->iPhone 6->iPhone 6s->iPhone 7 Plus
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Posted: 2007-11-08 22:15
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Guys, as you know, I'm planing to sell my 902, and buy SE K810i, and a separate P&S digital camera. I just realized that I can't find a digital camera that has manual ISO 50 setting, and I want that, because I checked some sample night photos from the cameras I'm considering, and they are worse than night photos taken with my i-mobile 902. I'm talking about Canon and Kodak 7 & 8 MP cameras. That's bad, because I don't want a camera which won't be able to take at least the same quality long exposure night photos my 902 does.

Here are the cameras that are in my price range:



http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/6269/00ir2.jpg
(Bigger size so you can see the cameras!)

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Posted: 2007-11-09 06:26
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@SaLiH,

I think the Canon A530 has the same sensor as the i-mobile 902: 5MP 1/2.5". It allows ISO 80. This, in combination with the larger lens, I think produces even better photos than the 902.

Don't focus too much on ISO 50. The 902 needs this due to its small lens. A P&S camera will have a larger lens and can allow slightly higher ISO while still producing equal or better shots. The advantage with higher ISO is faster shutter speeds, which means a bit easier to shoot hand-held.

I recommend that you pick a camera with a larger sensor in combination with the resolution: maximum 5MP with 1/2.5 sensor, or max 7MP with a 1/1.8 sensor. DPreview.com gives the full specs, including sensor size for all camera models.

Whatever you do, don't pick the Kodak C513! It has a small 1/2.5 CMOS sensor, so I would expect not much better than N95-quality photos from it.

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Posted: 2007-11-09 09:57
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@AbuBasim
Thank you for the advice, I checked many reviews about these cameras on these sites:

http://www.steves-digicams.com/

http://www.dpreview.com/

http://www.photographyblog.com/

http://www.trustedreviews.com/

http://www.digicamreview.co.uk

http://www.ukdigitalcamerareviews.co.uk

http://www.imaging-resource.com

http://www.cameras.co.uk

http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com

http://www.digitalcamerareview.com/

http://www.cnet.com/

http://www.megapixel.net

http://www.livingroom.org

http://www.itreviews.co.uk

And my finalists are:

Canon PowerShot A530

Canon PowerShot A550

SONY Cyber Shot DSC-S650

SONY Cyber Shot DSC-S700

SONY Cyber Shot DSC-W35

& maybe some Panasonic model

I'm not such a fan of Kodak, their V803 8 MP camera
(http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/kodak/v803-review/)
produces average night photos with much noise, it has a weak flash, although the camera looks great. I just don't like when the camera doesn't allow manual iso during long exposure night shots, like it's the case with this Kodak model, and a few other ones from this list.
I would also go for FUJI, but these two models that are in my budget are not so great.
I'll probably buy CANON, because I had
Canon PowerShot A40, 2 MP camera for 4 years and it was a great camera.

This would be my perfect camera, but it's a bit expensive for me now.


Canon PowerShot A640

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