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how much more expensive is a CCD sensor in a cell phone ? |
plankgatan
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like i said, how much more does a CCD sensor cost in a cell phone. (is it a much higher cost ? )
is it difficult to create a cell phone with CCD ?
is CCD "eating" much more battery ?
do you guys think we gonna see a Cybershoot (soon) with CCD sensor ?
(i realy hope so. if its possible of course)
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CCD makes phone more bulky. |
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On 2007-08-28 11:27:00, ajeetpv wrote:
CCD makes phone more bulky.
Is that it?
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(heard rumors that "k950i" (or what gonna call it) with 3 X Optical zoom gonna have CCD)
edit. bulky ? (i think that can build in that bulk pretty good. if the pics about "k950" is true, it is no bulk)
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On 2007-08-28 11:27:00, ajeetpv wrote:
CCD makes phone more bulky.
imagine the S700i
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samsung is going to introduce a 5mp phone with 3x optical zoom.
which results in a bigger phone
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found it; samsung G800
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There is no such thing as K950
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On 2007-08-28 11:59:59, rockygali wrote:
On 2007-08-28 11:27:00, ajeetpv wrote:
CCD makes phone more bulky.
imagine the S700i
I'm not sure the S700i's bulk was due to the CCD sensor, as much as the swivel design. Another example of CCD-based camera phone: i-mobile 902 which has the same dimensions as the K850i: 102x48x17.5 mm vs 102x48x17 mm, that's a half millimeter thicker - not what I would call "bulk".
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The G800 has a CCD sensor?
There's already a Samsung model that uses a CCD sensor: the KG920. It was introduced last year. Mobile-review.com called it an "amazingly expensive handset" in their review 
Regarding cost: yes, CCD costs more. This is the main reason for manufacturers to choose CMOS. But you would need to know the price of specific CCD sensor modules to know how much it would increase the price.
Another reason is power consumption. I think this could be the cause of the bulk: larger batteries.
But with all these drawbacks you can't escape the fact that, with the small sensor sizes used in camera phones and point-and-shoot cameras, CCD is the best when picture quality is important. This is with today's technology. I have no doubt that CMOS sensors will equal and even surpass CCD in the near future.
Edit:This article explains the differences between CMOS and CCD very well.
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Dude, the KG920 was a product from LG, not Samsung...
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/lg-kg920-en.shtml
But photos taken by K770i seems good, I do not know if it was CCD or CMOS sensor, most probably CMOS sensor.
Real size photos
http://www.phonedaily.com/news/?news_id=6050
(scroll down to see more of it comparing with k550i.
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Oops! That's true. LG KG920 is a 5MP CCD camera phone.
Samsung has also one from last year, but 3MP: SGH-Z710.
The Z710 is supposed to be the GSM-version of the CDMA-model SCH-A990 and I have seen comments about the A990 being an excellent camera. Here's one gallery. Oddly enough mobile-review's review of the Z710 shows average photos so it seems that Samsung used slightly different camera modules in these two phones.
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Sony Ericsson has not produced any CCD models since S700/S710, afaik.
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Modern CMOS sensors are supposed to be nearly as good as CCD now. CMOS is cheaper and also uses less power than CCD.
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On 2007-08-28 13:21:13, QVGA wrote:
There is no such thing as K950
you dont understand what i mean !
of course planing a new 5 M.P. Cybershoot phone, (why shouldnt they, they planing new phones all time). and like i said i just "called" it k950i (because thats maybe what gonna call it, the name IS NOT IMPORTANT), im talking about, WHEN and IF coming with a CCD phone.
let say (for fun) that this pictures is true, maybe it also have a CCD sensor.
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@ Plank Why is it CCD so important to you in a camera phone??? You can see there's good CCD(as in AbuBasim's A990's CCD sensor?) and bad CCD(as in AbuBasim's Z710's CCD camera module) so we can also say there's good CMOS and bad CMOS sensor too. |
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Because if you pick the right one, it will take very good photos.
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Why would you want a CCD when all the new DSLRs are switching over to CMOS?
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