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michael the mage
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Posted: 2007-08-10 01:18
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Hello,
I have just checked via Swiss Manager Pro the System Tab and then the RAM size of 2 of my P990's.
Well, 1 of them, the US one has: * 59 MB RAM and 5 MB ROM
whereas my Netherland one has: * 61 MB RAM and 3 MB ROM....

...so of course both phones have therefore different RAM available after a restart and perhaps THIS is the explanation we were looking for in regards WHY do people have different RAM at startup...etc.! Most likely this is widespread!

my question: HOW come ??? So, what is YOURS ? AND, anybody knows if this can be changed or if it automatically changes or.... whatever. I came to check this because I saw a picture about this in one of the forums. So I checked by phones and voila... another thing that is Different with Same Phone from SE.

Attention: Read on, it CAN be changed!!! Actually depending on the Firmware Pack / Organizer, you can change 59 to 61 wopping MB!!

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Mizzle
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Posted: 2007-08-10 01:40
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Mine is a nordic preproduction unit and I believe it's got 59 MB, too.
michael the mage
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Posted: 2007-08-10 01:43
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Mine is US Retail, not a proto! The other one is Retail Netherland. And how much ROM do you have? [addsig]
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Posted: 2007-08-10 01:50
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On 2007-08-10 01:43:52, michael the mage wrote:
Mine is US Retail, not a proto! The other one is Retail Netherland. And how much ROM do you have?



I really can't remember if it's 2 or 5 MB.
davidgp
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Posted: 2007-08-10 07:38
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59/5 here.

Swedish version. If there is such a thing...
riffola
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Posted: 2007-08-10 07:50
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Mine is 59 MB RAM and 5MB ROM. Not sure where it was bought but it was made in France in August 2006.

Are both your phones running the newest firmware with no branding? Mine has no branding and running the newest firmware. I wonder if the size of the firmware changes the size of the ROM. Since both your phones add up to 64MB just like ours.

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Posted: 2007-08-10 07:57
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The sum of RAM and ROM is always 64 MB. The actual values may depend on the firmware (organizer) and the hardware (DPY on the box) version of the phone. The amount of total RAM naturally impacts the achievable maximum free memory.
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jplacson
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Posted: 2007-08-10 08:01
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firmware and installed language options change the available RAM/ROM
prart
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Posted: 2007-08-10 08:29
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Mine is GW1, na branding, no locks, directly from SE cental in Sweden.
RAM total: 59 MB
ROM size: 5 MB

I`m using polish language - @jplacson, do you think that format internal memory from service menu will give more RAM and it will result in 61/3?
Nickp990
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Posted: 2007-08-10 14:28
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my is 59 mb of ram

and 5 mb of rom but in previos firmware i have 61 mb of ram and 3 mb of rom.strangr he he
michael the mage
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Posted: 2007-08-10 16:16
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Thanks for all the explanations so far. Is there a way to realy change 59/5 to 61/3?

Which is better.... the 5 ROM or just 3 ROM, compared to 61/59 RAM ?

My phones are 1. US, 2. Netherland, hence 1 is World 1 and 1 is Netherland generic trade. (and yes, both are original SE, no operator/branding)

So, if I would change us1 to netherland, would that also change the ram/rom or is that a HARDWARE thing with the hardware DPY as Lisa mentioned?

After all, if changing into another cda then world 1 makes that happen, why not, expecially since we cannot expect anymore fe updates anyway. So I am rather stuck with 61 RAM then 59 RAM



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Draxx
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Posted: 2007-08-10 16:31
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How do I find this information? As I can't find it anywhere in SMP????
michael the mage
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Posted: 2007-08-10 16:37
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You must have smp pro I think. Perhaps it will work with the free version too. open SMP and select the System tap, then scroll to free ram and select that.... it will show RAM, ROM, PAGING FILE size!
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TonyP990
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Posted: 2007-08-10 16:58
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Mine (Italy Trade) is 59Mb. I think this thing could be added in the p990 wiki...


michael the mage
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Posted: 2007-08-11 00:40
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Okay, it would be very interesting if people start giving the following info here for a while:

Branded or Unbranded P990i
DPY version and CDA
Firmware Version
using SMP the RAM and ROM sizes !!!

Why, because I just did what I thought I'd never do.... I changed the firmware from my US World1 to Netherland /66 R5A fw!!!

Now I have indeed 61 RAM and 3 ROM !!! Unbelievable but true!

So, now I just wait until Netherland Generc gets the newest and I will have forever 61 RAM !

It is a difference of 1.5 to 2 MB usable more memory compared to the other!

Phantastic! So far all is well. Except for those who wanna do the same, the BACKUP won't work! You have to do every setting, etc. from scratch.

What I did however, I used a backup I did back when world1 had the R5A fw and that one worked fine. So at least all info, settings, etc. from then was restored!

Regards and thanks to Lisa who pointed out that this might relate to the organizer which is totally true. I have just proven it!

In any case, anyone trying this, remember, you can screw up your phone forever if you are sloppy and make any mistake!!!

In any case... it CAN be done!

Regards [addsig]
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