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batesie
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Mobile phone masts are not responsible for the symptoms of ill health some blame them for, a major UK study says.
Dozens of people who believed the masts trigger symptoms such as anxiety, nausea and tiredness could not detect if signals were on or off in trials.
But when they thought the signal was on they reported more distress, suggesting the problem has a psychological basis.
However, the Environmental Health Perspectives study stressed people were nonetheless suffering "real symptoms".
"Belief is a very powerful thing," said Professor Elaine Fox, of the University of Essex, who led the three-year study.
"If you really believe something is going to do you some harm, it will."
Continued here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6914492.stm
Source: BBC News
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umerhayat
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I personally do not beleive phone could create such symptoms
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Mr Miyagi
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me neither |
batesie
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thats exactly what theyve just proven 
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bulukaki
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so, it supposed to be worse for you to live close to a cellphone tower rather than living under an electric wire with all those humming sound? wow that's new.... I thought walking under those wires are bad already 
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max_wedge
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On 2007-07-26 01:20:42, bulukaki wrote:
so, it supposed to be worse for you to live close to a cellphone tower rather than living under an electric wire with all those humming sound? wow that's new.... I thought walking under those wires are bad already
Allergies is one thing, cancer is another. Cancer clusters are statistically proven to be linked to high tension cables, and possible cell towers also
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carkitter
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Cancer is not caused by cellphones or cell towers. World Health Organisation statistics show that 70% of all cancer deaths are in poor and developing nations - these countries don't have the mobile infrastucture that developed/western nations have so that proves it. Also, here's an excerpt from the WHO website:
FACTS ABOUT CANCER
Cancer is a leading cause of death worldwide. From a total of 58 million deaths worldwide in 2005, cancer accounts for 7.6 million (or 13%) of all deaths. The main types of cancer leading to overall cancer mortality are:
- Lung (1.3 million deaths/year);
- Stomach (almost 1 million deaths/year);
- Liver (662,000 deaths/year);
- Colon (655,000 deaths/year) and
- Breast (502,000 deaths/year).
More than 70% of all cancer deaths in 2005 occurred in low and middle income countries. Deaths from cancer in the world are projected to continue rising, with an estimated 9 million people dying from cancer in 2015 and 11.4 million dying in 2030.
The most frequent cancer types world wide are:
Among men (in order of number of global deaths): lung, stomach, liver, colorectal, oesophagus and prostate.
Among women (in order of number of global deaths): breast, lung, stomach, colorectal and cervical.
QUICK CANCER FACTS
- 40% of cancer can be prevented (by a healthy diet, physical activity and not using tobacco).
- Tobacco use is the single largest preventable cause of cancer in the world. Tobacco use causes cancer of the lung, throat, mouth, pancreas, bladder, stomach, liver, kidney and other types; Environmental tobacco smoke (passive smoking) causes lung cancer.
- One-fifth of cancers worldwide are due to chronic infections, mainly from hepatitis B viruses HBV (causing liver), human papilloma viruses HPV (causing cervix), Helicobacter pylori (causing stomach), schistosomes (causing bladder), the liver fluke (bile duct) and human immunodeficiency virus HIV (Kaposi sarcoma and lymphomas).
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In western countries many more cancers can be prevented ie: skin cancers that result from sunburn, HIV - where the infection resulted from unsafe sex practices. In the UK in 2005, Cancer killed 142,000 people, 55,000 of them under the age of 70. That means 87,000 of them were over 70 yrs. Who uses cellphones the most? Those under 70 I'd say.
Simply put, Cancer in the west (where medical healthcare is good and readily available) is mostly an old persons disease made more common by the fact that we now rutinely live 70yrs and beyond; not due to pesticides, electro magnetic radiation, modern technology, car fumes, atmospheric particles, processed food or anything else that Greenpeace might dream up to justify thier existance.
As mentioned above, it's all in thier heads.
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max_wedge
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saying that high tension wires cause cancer is not the same thing as saying that all cancers are caused by high tension wires.
None of you proof counts for anything. Just because lot's of other things may be a more common cause of cancer, doesn't "prove" that high tension cables don't cause cancer.
Who really knows? Not you nor I. Yet, the fact remains, that statistical studies DO SHOW cancer clusters around hire tension cables.
Go figure...
One thing I absolutely agree with you about, healthy people have a radically reduced likelyhood of getting cancer. ANOTHER statistically proven fact.
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carkitter
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Cancer is statistically shown to affect the poor and the elderly, these people are more likely to live under powerlines...
Despite the wide spread use of powerlines, microwave ovens, cellphones, radio, wifi, bluetooth, etc in the developed nations, WHO statistics don't show any sign of these as causes. In fact, it says Cancer in developed nations is simply 'not a serious problem' like in poor nations.
Prolonged exposure to life causes cancer, I'm afraid. You have to die of something... 
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JK
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On 2007-07-30 09:38:26, carkitter wrote:
Cancer is statistically shown to affect the poor and the elderly, these people are more likely to live under powerlines...
Despite the wide spread use of powerlines, microwave ovens, cellphones, radio, wifi, bluetooth, etc in the developed nations, WHO statistics don't show any sign of these as causes. In fact, it says Cancer in developed nations is simply 'not a serious problem' like in poor nations.
Prolonged exposure to life causes cancer, I'm afraid. You have to die of something...
Yes but all cancers are different, with different causes, I doubt the masts cause throat and lung cancer of even breast cancer, i could cause some other type of cancer....
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carkitter
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But without proof it's all just superstition, conjecture, unfounded fears or political agenda. I'd be more concerned about inhaling second-hand smoke than imagined cell-tower radiation. Medical science has proved a link between second-hand smoke and cancer.
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JK
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Ok maybe theres no proof that it causes cancer but can it accelerate cancerous cells dying? It could act as a catalyst and make cancer kill more quickly?
Its possible.
Ps Car check out the SA thread got some pics of a Renault F1 car.
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