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New SE phones lack of 16M colour screen |
mikeb
Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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From: Sweden
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Its not that hard to understand why not,
1) a 16M LCD costs more than a 256k LCD.
2) 16M will of course look better than 256k, but for most applications (not including mobile TV) you use the phone for, 256k is more than enough
Mobile TV has not yet taken off and will not take off big time for at least another year or two.
So no 16M LCD until SE launch their Bravia range, specifically geared towards Mobile TV (like Cybershot for camera & Walkman for music).
But they probably will not be in the shops until next year (just a guess by me, but as the next traditional announcement time for SE is Sep, then any new phones will not arrive until just before Xmas or more likely in 2008).
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Aware
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
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'no se has got as big as e61i in term of screen'
Sorry P990 is 2.8", identical to E61/i, N92(first S60 to have 2.8").... 
....and there IS a difference between 256k and 16m colours, anyone who doesn't think so, go look at 2005 model, PANASONIC VS6.....
- a £99 phone! It even(dare I say it) shows up the Nokia 16m screens for what they are, let alone every other manufacturer stuck on 256k!
Chop, chop, SE!
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miguel82
Joined: Feb 14, 2006
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From: Portugal
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The diference is almost nothing, so I dont care if it got 256k or 16M as long they both be perfectly visible at sun light. That is the most important thing in a screen to me, and one of the reasons why i get rid of my p990
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goldenface
Joined: Dec 17, 2003
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I think the biggest problem on Mobile screens is visibility in sunlight.
256k screens are no big disadvantage IMO. I never heard anyone complain about the K800i screen colours.
16 million colours screens will appear on SE phones soon but I don't think they are essential right now. It certainly won't put me off buying a phone.
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miguel82
Joined: Feb 14, 2006
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On visibility in sunlight subject i think nokia is doing a excellent job. All nokias i tested were great and my p990 was simply the worst phone i had in this subject (I think i can only compare it to a t68i visibility in sunlight! very very terible... lol) !! I had a w800 and a w810 too... they were ok but still worse than nokia screens on sunlight
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Dogmann
Joined: Jan 29, 2006
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From: London England
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Hi all
Just because you can't see any need for them doesn't mean we all should all do without out them does it. As for them being more expensive i am sure they are but my devices don't appear to cost me extra because of the screen it is the whole device i pay for.
I unfortunately have to spend a day in Hospital receiving treatment quite often and afterwards while recovering the feeling in my legs am stuck in bed for a few hours and the TV in hospital is rubbish. So being able to watch a movie like Kill Bill 2 with it's intense colours and fast movement i like the best quality i can get and why should i settle for less even the the Mighty Boosh episodes or the Simpson's also gain from this improved quality not to mention Porn.
Sorry but some of you just talk utter rubbish that has absolutely no basis in reality and until SE introduce it is just seen as a deficiency so deny it's needed or any good really pathetic IMO i just wish some of you children would hurry up and grow up.
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himlims_nl
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i don't need 16M display
- it's more energy consuming (which reduces standby time)
- usualy more fragile (not always) but i've seen more broken 16M displays.
- they cost more, so the mobile's become more expensive.
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QVGA
Joined: May 23, 2006
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On 2007-06-15 15:27:04, himlims_nl wrote:
i don't need 16M display
- it's more energy consuming (which reduces standby time)
- usualy more fragile (not always) but i've seen more broken 16M displays.
- they cost more, so the mobile's become more expensive.
The price of E60 contradicts your third point. It can be found for as little as 250$. E60 also contradicts your first point aswell, and so does E61 and E62. |
himlims_nl
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it's a simpel fact a 16M display is more expensive compared to a 256K
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701
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I TOTALLY agree there is no point in making 16M screens as I used both the M600i and an HTC 8310 with 16 M screen and i saw NO difference watsoever and i am tech savvy. Most of the people aren't and they can't see the difference between a 64k and 256k , so what's the point?!
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mib1800
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no different in UI view but try to see a video or photo and you will see different. |
701
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Well, I did and still really no difference. Plus that I have a Panasonic VS3 which also has a 16M screen...
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sidneylopsides
Joined: Aug 23, 2002
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From: Leeds
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I have to say a 16m colour screen doesn't sell a phone for me, I'ev had a few and there's no noticable difference with those and a 262k.
If you look hard there is a a slight improvement in banding but that's it, vibrancy and contrast are more down to how well the screen is built and used than to how many colours it can show.
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sesukaku
Joined: Sep 23, 2006
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personally i think it is something that SE should address. That's why i put it as a thread. I would have thought they have gone 16 million colors back then when they were about to release K800. To my dissapointment it wasnt. It is a natural thing that the successor would, right? if it doesn't, it will just make the dissapointment bigger, that's what i think. have you guys seen nokia 6300's screen? damm.. i couldnt believe that's the screen, it is unbelievable sharp and bright and rich in colors (on top of that, it looks very unreal to me  and seemed to be overcoloured, but if you compare it to K800, K800's screen looks dull) |
shaliron
Joined: Jan 15, 2006
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Here's the reasoning:
- 16 million colour screens are more expensive. Simple as that. SE wants to save money. Who doesn't?
But that can't be the only reason:
- They waste much more power, for a somewhat negligible increase in quality. Remember these are 2"-2.4" screens, not large HDTVs.
- And if they wanted to equal the battery life of 262k displays vs 16mil displays, then they'd need larger batteries, adding to the bulk. Really, what would the public really want? Smaller phones rather than an incremental step up in picture quality.
- The difference isn't as great as say 256<4096<65K screens.
Look at past examples of under-achieving phones in regards to battery life from Nokia:
-N95
-6300
-6131
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Posted: 2007-06-15 13:53
p990i(r6d), n82-1(20.0.062)
