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New SE phones lack of 16M colour screen |
kreacher
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Yes the human eye can tell the difference when you see banding on 24bit color gradients and yes its a BIG disappointment for me too  |
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skylineR35
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there's difference and human eye could differentiate them.
the problem is it's insignificant then if compared on QVGA screen.
i mean SE is just think its not worth it.
for the sake of little upgrade of the screen, battery lifetime will be severely reduced. just the matter of worth it or not from SE i think.
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Dextrr
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Funny how every SE "fanatic" are defending the lack of a 16Mil screen. I'm 101% sure deep down inside they wish the new K,W and P series phone had it. I like Nokia's thinking, give the consumer the best in tech, even if thats at premium prices. I would love to have a bigger and 16mil screen in all the new SE phones! |
Supa_Fly
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On 2007-06-15 06:31:14, JuanPablo wrote:
Two reasons:
1. 16M colors make the battery life shorter.
2. The human eye cannot see the difference between 256k and 16M.
2> Utter CRAP! Why are there specific COLOR WHEELS and calibration applications for LCD's & CRTs?!! Why do graphic design houses/firms & in-house graphic teams for top mags like Vogue/GQ have their publishing graphics teams USING calibration hardware/software combo's?!!! WHy do HD movie producers have their teams use such combo's on their FinalCutPro studio screens!?! Lastly why does LaCie make such STANDARD for visual quality screens for CRT's/LCD's for MANY MANY years?!
There is a HUGE spectrum that a healthy human eye can see. Alongside the same colors with minimal range its nearly impossible for the human eye to detect. However give a broad range of colours and its like night & day for the human eye to detect.
Proof? Ferrari doesn't always use the same RED paint in all their models, older berlinetta front engine classics always have a deeper shade of red than moderns like the 360 Modena's. Red also is the most EXPENSIVE paint to have on a car and boosts your insurance JUST because of the color on same car model! You wanna proove me wrong? Get some 9 year old kid with a buck-knife/key to scratch your expensive red-paint Honda TL or RX-8 , 350z. You'll see.
What effects perception of 16mil colors vs 256K is the QUALITY of the LCD! Samsung produces more than anyone else does, and SE just didn't want to give a major competitor so much money. 
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Dextrr
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Hmmmm - Interesting tidbits Prom1! |
Eric's Son
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The difference is quite visible on gradients, even on small screens. And the biggest battery killer is the backlight, doesn't matter 16M or 262K.
[ This Message was edited by: Eric's Son on 2007-06-15 06:38 ] |
shyam335
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True,
the only reason i can come up with are economic..
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dxreaper
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There might be many other reasons as to why SE decides on using 256k. Of course more colour is better, but this is something I really feel I can live without personally.
One of the reason I could think of is that maybe their 256k LCD production line is very mature and provides a very good yield (meaning efficiency) and therefore cheap for standard handsets.
The colours are distinguishable when you look at smooth gradients, but honestly, would you even notice if your Ferrarri picture is just 0.1 of a shade different? You can't even tell the difference until you compare it with what the original colour is suppose to be, and even then it might not be the same as pictures on screen will differ due to different contrast or hue settings anyway. So why the fuss? |
thecell
Joined: Aug 25, 2004
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IMO its no prob for me since my eyes cant see big difference between 256k and 16m on small screen, im quite sure 16m really will affect b attery performance since, because LCDs chip need more power to boost the 16m graphic performance, especially while it running 3d games.
n95 is 16m right? but what i see is the screen does not better than w900. I think 16m colour screen will only work min 272x480 4" screen, like SonyPSP screen.
Personally, i prefer 'few differences in screen' than 'big differences in money'  , i dont want to lose $30 for such a not worthed thing, plus affect the battery performance, no way. |
dxreaper
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thecell,
I better correct your statement before someone flames you.
Firstly, I understand that is a matter of your own opinion, and for you, your judgment for a nice screen is not really to do with the colours.
What I think is the reason as to why you said the W900's screen seems nicer to you could be to do with the Saturation of the colour or the Contrast, as high contrast normally gives an artificially vivid and pleasant picture sometimes, but that just means it's vivid and nice looking, it might not be natural.
What those people who are pro more colour on screen might argue with you is that the number of colours are there for reproducing images with accuracy rather than it being good looking. For them, natural accurate reproduction is more important over realism.
One obvious example. Have you all noticed how newer movies and tv shows, not to mention computer games have been using the "bloom" effect? Like take the movie 300 for example or Smallville. The bloom effect makes the image looks nicer, but that does not mean it has more details. It's all after effects, same with vivid colours with high contrast.
Hope I didn't go to long or off topic, I think it's pretty on with comparing the different deception of what is a 'good' screen.
Same can be said with a lot of things, it's rather subjective. Music, some people like bass, other likes clarity, so on and so forth.
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kyle_274
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both sides r right...SE has the technology to make a 16m screen but they dnt? and nokia does nd i take my hat off to nokia for that...but i wud rather hve the w910 over the n95 or any other nokia...its an awesome phone well all of SE phone r awesome...u complain about SE not hveing a 16m screen well were is nokia motion sensor thing? or trust worthy phones? or gud design that dnt luk like blocks? |
SE_Mark
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SE must be doing something right, or everyone who's complaining about SE's screen resolution wouldn't be here, they'd be happy playing with their Nokia's right now. |
razec
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On 2007-06-15 05:04:36, Dogmann wrote:
@Razec
Have you seen and used any 16m colour screens? because i know own 2 and i can tell you quite simply they are better and i don't really care how or why as that is of no importance to me. All i know is that it means i get a better viewing experience for Web, Films & Video and every other thing i look at. Also it is rubbish about them killing battery life as the E61 has the best battery life of virtually any smart phone.
i did, and it was always honestly(typically because in my location most people have nokia phones i.e. 6131 and 6300) but everytime i have a look at those i can't really tell the difference between the two(16M nokia and 262K SE/Samsung) except on the brightness 16M provides. E61 have avery good battery because of the higher 1500 MaH battery. but if we used an N95's battery 950MaH i guess it won't stay as long as SE phones could(it could only last less than N95 standbytime could since it has larger 2.8 inches screen whilst n95 has 2.6 that size difference makes sense already ). meanwhile E90's battery doesn't even last longer than E61 does even though it has the same battery type as E61 @ 1500MaH(thanks to it's mammoth LCD resolution and size  ). with that case i won't consider 16M colors to be not so battery thirsty compared to 262K
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QVGA
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there is a difference in 256K and 16million, just get that into your heads. because SE didnt offer 16m doesnt mean 16m has no signifance |
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Posted: 2007-06-15 06:49
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