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KingBooker5
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Ok guys,
we see and here it all the time. Now days its damn near impossible to turn on the news with out the supposed "crisis of climate change" being mentioned. Now all the adverts on tv are talking about going green aswell. News flash: This is the worlds greatest propaganda not crisis. In a few years our governments will make us scared to turn on the light bulb.
There is hardly and evidence to support the theory of global warming. The reason why tempreatures are warming currently is because of natural occurences. If any thing there has been a very slight cooling by 0.01 degree. The sun out puts more energy a second then human activity can do in a million years. Also they say that all the global warming is killing our plant life and animals. Actualy its the other way round. Co2 is the life blood of plants and life its self. With out it we would not be here to day. The more co2 being pumped out is heaven for plants, it increases the rate pf photosynthasis which is a scientific fact. Volcanos out put more CO2 than humans times 100, and 97% of co2 deposited is via the Earths oceons. Now your wondering 97% is a big number, how much to humans leave behind? Well I have the answer: Just 1. 1% of all co2 is left by humans. When a volcano erupted I believe on some islands on hawai (if I remember correctly) cooled down the whole area, not warming it up.
Now onto more science and not the crap we are being fed every day: sea levels rising? We see all the pictures of ice shelfs comming of antartica and the artic: Newsflash, this isnt global warming, ice shelfs breaking of is as normal as leaves comming of trees in the autamn.
This is antartica with out its icesheild talen of wekepideia. Lets here what they say about it:
"Rock surface of Antarctica and sea ground, from 60 to 90 degrees South. The map does not consider that the sea level would rise because of the melted ice, nor that the landmass would rise, too, on a middle to long-term scale as the weight of the ice would not depress the landmass any longer."
If you believe I just made this up heres the link to prove it:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:AntarcticaRockSurface.jpg
You see i back up my explanations. On the news a few weeks ago, they said how scientists should quiet down on global warming because the opposite may be happening and its actualy global cooling! Now this is my personal theory on that: I belive they have found a pattern in the future of the earths for the next couple of years and the tempeartures will fall. I believe they have said this for when the tempreatures cool down the global warming hoax can stay alive.
Another thing recently is the London 2012 olympics, one of the top proritys of it is to construct it with as little harm to the environment as possible. And its going to cost the British government about 10 Billion pounds. There even going to tax us so they can afford it. 2 big things strike me as odd here: First of I thought going green was cheap? ITS MORE EXPENSIVE to go green (il mention about that a little later) and 2. In theory the olympics should be a great financial gain. Think about all the huge sponcers it will gain and from all the tickits. Componies will pay billions to be sponsers.
All this about being green. In Africa, a poor starving nation, they are the ones being pressured to be more green!! What is that some sort of a sick joke?? They should be persuaded to burn more fossil fules so they could develope. But they are using insufficiant Solar energy! Using natural power is insuficiant because you can only use it for won thing. On an african school they had solar panals attactched and when they used the air conditioning they had to un plug the fridge because the energy cant support 2 things at the same time. Please some one tell me how somthing like wave power and wind can power a industry using hevy machinery?
Oil is one of the main colprets of "man made global warming" if it were real we could stop it tomrrow. Its very easy to run an engine on somthing like sterolised alchol and other oils that cause no harm such as corn syrup and vegtable oil. Eve soya is a source of energy for machinery but we dont use it becuase are governments want to control us and tax us! That is the prupose of global warming. The developed world is going to live in a state od fear becuase the governments are going to make us scared and control us.
I dont see using insuficiant and expensive energy being the way forward. If you want to no more google global warming is a hoax or:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming020507.htm
is a good source
Every natural disaster no days, its all global warmings fault! I had a shit day at work, lets all blame global warming like every one else with out any evidence!
Thanks for reading the truth!
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We are due another ice age anyway. The planet naturally warms up and cools over millions of years. Not long after the dinosaurs died out (relatively speaking) there was an ice age, was that the fault of the dinosaurs driving around in their cars all day and all of the factories that they made pumping out pollution?
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Yeah, while there is certainly some evidence to suggest that increased CO2 emmisions may have an effect on our climate, the effect itself is likely to be nowhere near as appocolyptic as the governments and media are trying to make out.
Yet again, there's a hidden agenda somewhere 
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On 2007-06-10 13:59:11, Cycovision wrote:
Yeah, while there is certainly some evidence to suggest that increased CO2 emmisions may have an effect on our climate, the effect itself is likely to be nowhere near as appocolyptic as the governments and media are trying to make out.
Yet again, there's a hidden agenda somewhere
... methinks one of the obvious hidden agendas (wether GW exists or not!!!) is this: global warming is a wonderful weapon of mass-distraction when it comes to many many many other environmental isues, pollution etc etc! In some cities it's imposible to say, e.g., why some one gets lung cancer (15 yrs ago in hamburg they were checking the routine daily walk to school of the average inner-city kid - they shockingly found that a 10 yr-old on the daily walk to and from school inhales cancerogenics to the equivalent of appr. 5 cigarettes!! Ever heard about that? No, right?)... or do you think, e.g. II, you'll ever get drinkable water from your taps again, while the authorities give away the right to sell it in plastic bottles that leach xenoestrogens, and at a profit of up to 12.000 percent?! and so on and so on!!! Furthermore, what if we find that all those greenhouse gasses definitely don't cause GW - we have become totally distracted from the fact that those gasses are all harmful in themselves!!! But  ... we now get nuclear again, cause it's so clean and ungassy, and chernobyl was a century ago, in a communist state...
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Any one thinking GW is kind if strange now? |
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On 2007-06-10 13:59:11, Cycovision wrote:
Yeah, while there is certainly some evidence to suggest that increased CO2 emmisions may have an effect on our climate, the effect itself is likely to be nowhere near as appocolyptic as the governments and media are trying to make out.
Yet again, there's a hidden agenda somewhere
So by the US dragging its feet on action against Climate Change its actually not wanting to take part in the hidden agenda / conspiracy? That would be a first . . .
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The power of copy and Paste.
Completely agree tho
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maggflodd
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On 2007-06-11 09:54:42, goldenface wrote:
On 2007-06-10 13:59:11, Cycovision wrote:
Yeah, while there is certainly some evidence to suggest that increased CO2 emmisions may have an effect on our climate, the effect itself is likely to be nowhere near as appocolyptic as the governments and media are trying to make out.
Yet again, there's a hidden agenda somewhere
So by the US dragging its feet on action against Climate Change its actually not wanting to take part in the hidden agenda / conspiracy? That would be a first . . .
to that! i think until the facts are really in, it'd be nice to take action for the known reasons. Simple: pollution's not healthy - wether we are too cold, too hot, or too drown while we are being poisoned  Wtf... It's not healthy! And meanwhile U.K., e.g., is hyping nuclear again, while us is threatening Iran because they too want the n-thing; oh heck...whatever
... And water's the new oil, and that could be changed in, oh, a week! F*ck em - in the "olden days", when a town/village's water-supply was b*ggered tenporarily, proper water was transported in by tanker... Now we have to buy bottled drinking water (example: local tesco take 80 cent for 2ltrs cheapest still water, for 39 cent you get 2ltrs lemonade or "cola"... Hello?).... If every new home built in UK from now on got a moderate solar panel, in 10 yrs uk could export electricity without having to build a single new plant! Those panels would have to be manufactured, installed, maintained etc...so no jobloss! Some more hidden agendas... The hidden agenda is that we let them get away with it while it's all completely unhidden!
Look at a similar side-track-issue: smoking! now most campaigns are about second-hand smoke, why? Because governments crave tobacco tax, so the logical thing (prohibition of cigarette etc) is out!
In 2000 uk took 9billion in tobaco tax; less than 30 million of that went towards the NHS/medical research... We are being pimped out by our pusherman-governments! How obvious can a hidden agenda be?! And global warming (wether real or hyped or natural) is primarily used to exert further control over developing nations, over the population of the west etc etc fly me to the moon
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KingBooker5
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On 2007-06-11 10:26:06, ..:/Ğanny:.. wrote:
The power of copy and Paste.
Completely agree tho
lol are you actualy considering a copied and pasted this thread!!! I find this an insult. I gatherd my facts and put them into my own words. Im not a dum ass! |
KingBooker5
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On 2007-06-11 10:29:00, maggflodd wrote:
On 2007-06-11 09:54:42, goldenface wrote:
On 2007-06-10 13:59:11, Cycovision wrote:
Yeah, while there is certainly some evidence to suggest that increased CO2 emmisions may have an effect on our climate, the effect itself is likely to be nowhere near as appocolyptic as the governments and media are trying to make out.
Yet again, there's a hidden agenda somewhere
So by the US dragging its feet on action against Climate Change its actually not wanting to take part in the hidden agenda / conspiracy? That would be a first . . .
to that! i think until the facts are really in, it'd be nice to take action for the known reasons. Simple: pollution's not healthy - wether we are too cold, too hot, or too drown while we are being poisoned Wtf... It's not healthy! And meanwhile U.K., e.g., is hyping nuclear again, while us is threatening Iran because they too want the n-thing; oh heck...whatever
... And water's the new oil, and that could be changed in, oh, a week! F*ck em - in the "olden days", when a town/village's water-supply was b*ggered tenporarily, proper water was transported in by tanker... Now we have to buy bottled drinking water (example: local tesco take 80 cent for 2ltrs cheapest still water, for 39 cent you get 2ltrs lemonade or "cola"... Hello?).... If every new home built in UK from now on got a moderate solar panel, in 10 yrs uk could export electricity without having to build a single new plant! Those panels would have to be manufactured, installed, maintained etc...so no jobloss! Some more hidden agendas... The hidden agenda is that we let them get away with it while it's all completely unhidden!
Look at a similar side-track-issue: smoking! now most campaigns are about second-hand smoke, why? Because governments crave tobacco tax, so the logical thing (prohibition of cigarette etc) is out!
In 2000 uk took 9billion in tobaco tax; less than 30 million of that went towards the NHS/medical research... We are being pimped out by our pusherman-governments! How obvious can a hidden agenda be?! And global warming (wether real or hyped or natural) is primarily used to exert further control over developing nations, over the population of the west etc etc fly me to the moon
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[ This Message was edited by: maggflodd on 2007-06-11 09:57 ]
Excellent post! I thought I would come under fire with a thread like this and obviously not!
speaking of iran: isnt it funny how when the middle east made a point do trade oil in the euro and not the dollar America invaded? |
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Whoa, whoa, whoa! If there's any more quotes within quotes it'll look like one of those poxy repeating photograph-of-a-photograph-of-a-photograph things!
Actually, I'm the last person to believe in conspiracy theories and such like but I have researched this subject quite thoroughly over the last couple of years.
Personally, I believe that by getting us all to use less energy, it relieves pressure on the government and power companies to fund ahem, find new sources of energy to satisfy our ever increasing needs. Something that, as we all know, has always caused them a bit of a headache. And not just our current government, past and probably future ones as well.
Global warming is real, there's just little evidence at the moment to substantiate the outrageous claims that you often see in the media.
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KingBooker5
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On 2007-06-11 18:32:11, Cycovision wrote:
Whoa, whoa, whoa! If there's any more quotes within quotes it'll look like one of those poxy repeating photograph-of-a-photograph-of-a-photograph things!
Actually, I'm the last person to believe in conspiracy theories and such like but I have researched this subject quite thoroughly over the last couple of years.
Personally, I believe that by getting us all to use less energy, it relieves pressure on the government and power companies to fund ahem, find new sources of energy to satisfy our ever increasing needs. Something that, as we all know, has always caused them a bit of a headache. And not just our current government, past and probably future ones as well.
Global warming is real, there's just little evidence at the moment to substantiate the outrageous claims that you often see in the media.
You say its real then you say theres little evidence. How can somthing be real when theres nothing to back it up? I dont think its about " realiving pressure for govenrments " as you say. Think about all the other huge choices and decisions they have to make. I doubt making sure a few light bulbs are switched of have any significance to them.
Im not one to believe much in conspiracy theories either, however some intrest me alot. The only conspiracy theory I believe in are the apollo missions, waco massacre and the one were debating at this mooment. You have made a point but with no evidence to defend it. This whole thread has been on evidence and the proposturus lies our governments are telling us. Back up your claim
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@ king...
Re. Iraq... Curious, isn't it - and the next 2 big targets are iran and venezuela; guess what they have in common? That's right: "f*ck the world bank, the imf and the oil-DOLLAR"...
here's a curious reminder from history about israel attacking iraq's nuclear facilities! How things have changed, eh!? :
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/un/un487.htm
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Cycovision
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@king
It's real because it can be reproduced on a small scale under laboratory conditions, and has been successfully reproduced several times.
All I'm saying is that CO2 does act as a 'blanket', it does indeed 'trap heat'. But what isn't known yet is exactly what happens when it occurs on a global scale, i.e. exactly how much the earth might warm up by and, indeed, what effect if any that would have.
So I'm saying that the scaremongering crap we all have to listen to is not based on scientific fact at all, as you quite rightly say. But the properties of CO2 are.
As for turning off a few light bulbs, you'd be surprised! I trained as an electrical engineer and spent 4 years working in power stations before I moved into electronics and computers, so I do know a little about large-scale power consumption.
The governments are thinking long-term here, and not just about domestic customers but industry too. You could do away with quite a few power stations if everybody in the entire country cut their electricity consumption by just a small percentage. But that's beside the point really. The population is obviously growing, and if people become naturalised to saving energy now, then it will be passed on to future generations hence reducing the need for extra power sources in the future
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whatever happened to the hole in the ozone??
that kinda died a death....
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